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06/18/19 11:49 PM #4123    

 

Philip Spiess

Wyoming, Ohio:  How the memories come surging back!  Our former next-door neighbors in Clifton moved out to Wyoming when I was still young, but kept contact with us (they hosted my sister's wedding breakfast in 1966), and they annually invited us out to their home on the Fourth of July to enjoy their pool, drinks, and the six or seven fireworks celebrations (given Hamilton County's "patchwork quilt" of independent municipalities, as Iola Hessler called it, all of which had their own fireworks displays), which you could see from their hillside.  For many years, I supplied the fireworks for our own on-site celebrations at their house, often having to go to Milton, Kentucky (across the river from Madison, Indiana, near Hanover College, where I and seven other of our WHHS classmates had gone to college), to get the fireworks, because you could not buy them in Ohio (N.B.:  You can now buy fireworks in Ohio -- but you can not use them there!).


06/19/19 03:34 AM #4124    

 

Jerry Ochs

CAPTION CONTEST

My entry: Thelma and Louise survived the crash, but they never looked the same.


06/19/19 04:44 AM #4125    

 

Paul Simons

I don't know, but Willie Nelson has a new album out and it's terrific. This dude just goes on and on and gets better and better.


 


06/19/19 11:57 PM #4126    

 

Philip Spiess

Okay, Jerry, I'll bite at your picture caption:  "Two of the faces that never made it onto Mount Rushmore."


06/20/19 02:55 AM #4127    

 

Jerry Ochs

How about: Cagney & Lacey Season 45


06/23/19 12:24 AM #4128    

 

Philip Spiess

Hmm.  I was hoping to post, as a memorial to Mike Hunting, who loved mushrooms, his favorite mushroom recipe, which he had posted to me on his "Classmate Profile" on this site -- but it appears that, once one is deceased, all memory of that person -- profile, several years of comments, pictures, etc. -- is erased, and only "In Memory" comments exist.  While I appreciate the "In Memory" comments, I think it would be advantageous to keep our classmates' "Profiles" on this site as a true memorial of what they did, and thought, and commented on -- and how we responded back.


06/23/19 01:17 AM #4129    

 

Jerry Ochs

Phil et al.: At the bottom of the In Memory page there is a link to Mike's profile pages.


06/23/19 04:07 PM #4130    

 

Philip Spiess

Thanks (but so far I still haven't found the comment I'm looking for).


06/23/19 05:15 PM #4131    

 

Bruce Fette

I wish to agree with Phil. It is very unfortunate to loose all of the information about our good friends from WHHS except for a postage stamp photo when they pass. I would love to see the profiles remain available in some fashion.


06/24/19 11:38 AM #4132    

 

Larry Klein

Phil, Bruce, etal,

I believe our profile history is not "lost" In Memoriam.  It is merely compressed and stored.

As Jerry pointed out, you can access the original profile page by clicking the link at the bottom of the In Memoriam page. Once on the original profile page, you will see the most recent comments/posts for each "thread" in the profile.  These can be expanded to see the historical comments by clicking a link near the top of each thread which says "click to see (25) previous comments", eg.

Phil, if you can recall the general thread where you saw the comment you're looking for, you should find it by clicking that link.  Might take some poking around in several threads to find your specific comment, but not to worry - you can't break anything in there. I haven't (yet), and that's a minor miracle in itself.  Happy "hunting' (pun intended).


06/24/19 08:52 PM #4133    

 

Paul Simons

Tomorrow morning I'm heading towards Cincinnati for a few days. It's been too long since White Castles and the Coney Island pool. And now there's a new attraction - hummingbirds, lots of them, were flying around the Ault Park gardens last time I was there in summer. This time maybe I can get a photo.


06/24/19 10:31 PM #4134    

 

Bruce Fette

I wish I could join in a bag of W.C.s too.  And it has been sooo looong since I went to Coney.   Have a great time!  Take plenty of pics so we can enjoy a digital based memory of everything Cincy!

 


06/24/19 11:54 PM #4135    

 

Philip Spiess

Thanks, Jerry and Larry (oh, god!  it rhymes!) for your assistance.  Once I learned that there was a connection at the bottom of the "In Memory" page, it helped solve my "complaint" problem; but I thought that the comments I was looking for were made early on (circa 2014-2015) and on Mike's "Profile" page, somewhere below the picture of him with the big tray of morel mushrooms, since that's what he and I were chatting about.  But I'll keep looking.

Paul:  The last time I was in Alms Park -- and this was years ago -- all I saw (aside from the Stephen Foster statue, the Ohio River, Lunken Airport, and the former Wine Press house) was a dead rabbit, smeared in the middle of the road near the entrance gates.  (And, yes, I got a photo of it.  At the time I was photographically documenting what we call in the historic preservation trade "street furniture," "commercial archeology," "urban scale," "townscapes," and other items for a slide lecture I did for years called "Reading the City as Cultural Document."  The rabbit, of course, counted as "roadkill," a victim of the intersection, as it were, between the natural world and the human-induced environment.)


06/25/19 05:19 AM #4136    

 

Paul Simons

Thanks Bruce and Phil - the idea of taking a few Cincinnati photos - terrific, will do. Good to be on a mission, not just lollygagging out the turnpike to get some White Castles.

About roadkill - last time I almost was the roadkill. One rainy night - last October - driving out I-75 from downtown to the motel in Sharonville in the center lane and some absolute idiot slowed and then came to a dead stop. Traffic flying by on either side. I was frantically pumping the brakes to make the brake light flash, laying on the horn, looking in the rearview, seeing cars coming at me and then Praise The Lord veering off, finally a break in the traffic, and I got around him. Then he starts up again but I was gone, free, alive. They're crazy in Ohio in more ways than one.


06/25/19 07:16 AM #4137    

 

Jerry Ochs

The U.S. army has bases in Japan and the commisaries sell frozen White Castle cheeseburgers in a 16-burger box.  I don't know about the other services.


06/26/19 06:11 PM #4138    

 

Paul Simons

But where are the hamburgers??

 


 


06/26/19 09:28 PM #4139    

 

Paul Simons

But wait!! There's more!!


06/27/19 09:09 PM #4140    

 

Paul Simons

Some have expressed an interest in a few photos from Cincinnati so - but what's with the International Critter? What does it mean?

Before that, Ault Park -

 


06/28/19 09:58 PM #4141    

 

Paul Simons

A few photos from the Clifton area of Cincinnati -

And after a hot day taking photos -

 


06/28/19 10:30 PM #4142    

 

Bruce Fette

Paul, and many others,

The chili makes my mouth water even though its just a picture.

The empty WC burger boxes - I suspect that they jumped out of those boxes and straight into you.

And many other spots that we love.

Great memories. Thanks.

 

 

 

 

 


06/29/19 01:41 AM #4143    

 

Philip Spiess

Paul:  Thanks for the wonderful photos.  I have no idea what the International Critter statue is, but I see Porkopolis pigs at the base, the international flags, and a stack of flapjacks up top.  Syrup-titiously I'd say that "Sugar 'n' Spice" is trying to make some sort of statement.

Of course, Clifton was my old home base; I published a modest history of it in 1965.  So, since you have such a lovely photograph of the Mount Storm Park pergola, let me remind folks of its history:  The "Mount Storm" estate was the home of Robert B. Bowler, a prominent (and successful) dry goods merchant in downtown Cincinnati.  He built an impressive Italianate mansion (I have photographs of it in my collection) at the westen end of Lafayette Avenue; it had no less than two drawing rooms, one facing east and one facing west; one was French Louis Quatorze in style, while the other was more restrained and (what was then) modern in style.  It is said that, on the night Mr. Bowler and his family were to move into this new home, a tremendous thunder and lightning storm took place, which, coming from the west, would have hit this Clifton hillside head-on; hence, Mr. Bowler named his new establishment "Mount Storm."  (Robert Bowler was killed at a fairly young age in a carriage accident in downtown Cincinnati near the beginning of the 20th century, and his estate was eventually ceded to the Cincinnati Park Board, the house being torn down.  However, the carriage house/stables still exist as, I'm told, a caretaker's house, down the hill to the south of the parking lot.)

The Graeco-Roman pergola which Paul has so nicely captured on film supposedly is (or was) the capstone to an underground reservoir which supplied water to Mr. Bowler's seventeen greenhouses.  It is said that the then Prince of Wales of Great Britain, Albert Edward (a.k.a."Bertie"), son of Queen Victoria and much later King Edward VII, gave a short speech from the pergola when he visited Cincinnati circa 1867 (frankly, I'm not sure that date squares up with the date when the Bowler place was established).  Nevertheless, it makes a pretty story, and, when told it as a child living just down the hill on McAlpin Avenue, I pondered what a Prince of Whales must look like!  Adjacent to the pergola is a small, abrupt hillock, almost like a short, sharp Indian mound, which, if inspected, will be found to have three sides of it sealed up with concrete.  My grandmother told me that this was a small (apparently natural) cave which you used to be able to go into; my researches told me that it served as Mr. Bowler's wine cellar.  However, evidently some child hit his or her head on the rock ceiling in (maybe) the 1940s and was killed [?!], and so the Cincinnati Park Board sealed it up.

I've mentioned elsewhere in these pages what a wonderful sled-riding hill exists south of the parking lot, just west of the pergola and cave, so I won't go into that again.  What I will mention is that the sloping (and rather deserted) hill just west of the park's Shelterhouse and refreshment stand (almost always closed) was nearly perfect for flying kites in March and early April (if you could keep the kites out of the trees).  It was also where my family watched Sputnik go over in October of 1957.  The asphalt path at the side of the hill goes down to connect with Ludlow Avenue near Trechter Stadium, where nearly all of our WHHS football games were played (if it's still there, which I think it isn't), the site of which had been a major supply reservoir and boat turn basin for the Miami & Erie Canal, which was covered over in 1925 by the building of Central Parkway (which terminates at its northern end at the foot of Mount Storm).


06/29/19 08:24 AM #4144    

 

Paul Simons

First thanks for your kind words Bruce. I got lost looking for Camp Washington Chili which you had mentioned previously - maybe I'll find it today. Traffic is horrendous in this town and 75 is permanently an obstacle course and the obstacles are other cars. Speaking of that - Phil thank you for the history and it must be said Mr. Bowler's death in a traffic accident albeit carriage traffic rings true to the way people here drive today. Last time some idiot stops in front of me on 75 for no reason almost sending me to Spring Grove cemetery in a pine box. Today I see my right front wheel cover is damaged.

About the gaslight - there are lots of them. I did a bit of research on the term "to gaslight" which is from the movie "Gaslight" and it means to twist and falsify someone to others and to himself or herself. In the movie the husband did that to his wife. There are gaslighters around today, and I'd like to literally gaslight one of them. I was never much of a baseball player but I can imagine taking a full swing with one of those street lamps. Actually that would be hard, they must weigh a couple of hundred pounds each.

Also the description of concentrated wealth is, was, and always will be current. Those residences on those streets in Clifton, also Hyde Park - people really know how to do things right, to create beauty around themselves, when they have the money - loads of money.


06/29/19 05:10 PM #4145    

 

Paul Simons

These were taken thanks to Bruce Fette's suggestion. You can get there by just taking the Hopple St. overpass or viaduct, however a real Cincinnati resident would name it, or you can go down Spring Grove looking for Colerain and Arlington or Monmouth or Bates which is what I did. It took 4 attempts but I got here.


06/29/19 05:30 PM #4146    

 

Bruce Fette

Paul, 

Thanks for Camp Washington. Now we need a GoldStar to make the search complete!

Not included in Phil's overview of Mt. Storm is that Dave Ransohoff and the ham radio club, Irv Crandall, and Clark Ross, and several others that I cant remember, participated in a Field Day excersize setup there on Mount Storm. We transmitted and listened throughout the night as if there had been a national emergency.  Field Day excersizes continue, there was one last weekend.

He also did not mention that Sally Fox lived up there. Nevertheless, Phil has an astonishing overview of everything!

Happy Fourth to all, or maybe add one to that for Phil!

 

 

 


06/30/19 12:41 AM #4147    

 

Philip Spiess

To Paul and Bruce and All Those of You Who May Have Missed It:

Last year this book was drawn to my attention:  The Authentic History of Cincinnati Chili, by Dann Woellert (Charleston, S. C.:  American Palate, 2013; 175 pp.); it's also apparently available as an e-book.  In addition to covering all of the major names and brands of Cincinnati chili (and some minor ones as well), the book presents a chart of "The Cincinnati Chili Family Tree," showing how all of the chili parlors were spawned from the original Empress Chili Parlor.  (The one thing missing from the book is my Grandmother Goepp's "Cincinnati Chili con Carne" recipe, a dish which graced many a Sunday supper or picnic trip to Coney Island in my youth.  It was also served at many an Office of Museum Programs staff party at the Smithsonian Institution in the 1980s, and still does regular service in the Spiess family at family suppers, cabin overnights, meals for unexpected guests, etc. -- it goes great with homemade garlic bread!)

[Note to Bruce:  Sally Fox lived at the westernmost end of Lafayette Avenue, where it debouches into McAlpin Avenue, below Mount Storm Park.  And, yes, I'll have a Fifth on the Fourth!]


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