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06/26/15 02:42 PM #1702    

 

David Buchholz

Jon Carroll, a San Francisco Chronicle columnist, is visiting Cincinnati for perhaps the first time and wrote a column in today's paper about his visit.  I'm posting this forwhat could perhaps be a springboard for any kind of discussion and would be interested to hear what others say about it.  (It's not a link, just copy and paste)

http://www.sfchronicle.com/entertainment/carroll/article/Say-it-slow-say-it-reverently-Cincinnati-6347709.php

 

 

 

 


06/26/15 10:55 PM #1703    

 

Philip Spiess

No matter your politics (I don't care what they are) nor your view of our President, I hope you heard his eulogy at the funeral of the Reverend Clementa Pinckney in Charleston, South Carolina, today.  Not only was it a brilliantly rhetorical speech, full of prime metaphors delivered in the classic black preacher mode, but it touched on almost all major social issues infecting our country at the present time in a truthful and forceful way, without rancor or malice.  Beyond that, and I say this as a long-time Elder in the Presbyterian Church, his constant references to Providential Grace were both unerring as to Christian doctrine and on target as to their use in his speech.  (Such much for Obama being a Muslim!)  This was remarkable -- indeed, unprecedented -- in a president of the United States, at least as far as I know.  And what was even more remarkable was his singing the old hymn "Amazing Grace" in a televised talk.

(And for those of you who don't live in the Washington area, the White House tonight was lit with multicolored floodlights in honor of today's Supreme Court decision on same-sex marriage.)


06/26/15 11:40 PM #1704    

 

Jeff Daum

Phil, as much as I do not like to discuss politics OR religion on a forum, I totally concur with your post.  It was truly amazing and 'spot on.'


06/27/15 10:05 AM #1705    

 

David Buchholz

I'm copying this from a Facebook post about someone we all know:  

On this triumphant day, cannot forget to tip my eternally grateful hat to The Hon. Steven Levinson, the Hawaii Supreme Court justice who authored the historic Behr v Lewin ruling. Steven, I hope you and Cathy are basking in this moment tonight. We are so indebted to you, those brave couples from that case and their steadfast attorneys. Mahalo ... you all changed the world today.

For the first time, a state Supreme Court had ruled that gay couples might have the right to marry. 

To say that I am humbled is putting it midlly. For those of you who know me it will surprise you tthat I was quiet for most of the meal, just listening to this amazing, kind, passionate human being talk about his role in today's historical announcement from SCOTUS. 

Thank you Justice Levinson for all the choices you made - the karmic cycle as it were - that led us here today.

https://www.facebook.com/steven.levinson.58?fref=ts

 


06/27/15 11:06 AM #1706    

Ashley Brown

In light of the Supreme Court decision on gay marriage, we should psy tribute to Steve Levinson who pioneered the juducial path to marriage equality. In fact, it made it all even more appropriste that one of the cases the Supreme Court decided, was from Cincinnati. Hats off to Steve Levinson, whose pioneering has been vindicated.

06/27/15 04:56 PM #1707    

Diane Wiesen (Todd)

Yes, Phil, I hope others saw President Obama's eulogy in Charleston. It was a peak experience. I, for one, am a fan anyway, but yesterday I felt very proud that he was leading us. And he has a beautiful singing voice too!


06/27/15 06:03 PM #1708    

 

Jonathan Marks

 

 

In his decision, Justice Kennedy began his review of the history leading up to this case as follows:

Against this background, the legal question of same-sex marriage arose. In 1993, the Hawaii Supreme Court held Hawaii’s law restricting marriage to opposite-sex couples constituted a classification on the basis of sex and was therefore subject to strict scrutiny under the Hawaii Con- stitution. Baehr v. Lewin, 74 Haw. 530, 852 P. 2d 44. 

So Steve's opinion was cited, as officially as it gets, as the genesis of this landmark decision.

 


06/27/15 08:27 PM #1709    

 

Philip Spiess

I had sent my private congratulations to Steve on his Profile, but I'll happily add my public accolades to all of those above.  And let's not forget Bill Sinkford, who, if my memory serves, performed the first same-sex marriage in Massachusetts, when that state became the first state to recognize same-sex marriages.


06/28/15 07:41 AM #1710    

 

Jerry Ochs

Seeing as how the term "same-sex marriage" is more accurate than "gay marriage" I foresee heterosexual widows marrying widows, widowers marrying widowers, lifelong friends marrying, and other pairings based not on sexual orientation but for emotional, financial, or legal reasons, or simply for convenience.  Being legally tied has myriad benefits.


06/28/15 09:42 AM #1711    

 

Ann Shepard (Rueve)

Barack Obama's eulogy was absolutely inspired.  But you know, when he began singing, his mannerisms reminded me so much of my Dad, who had a booming but not so melodious voice.  Dad would be the first and loudest person to begin a hymn at church then would turn around to see if anyone else was singing. 

I'll join the others with saying how proud I am to be Justice Steve's classmate.  Those of you not on Facebook should have read remarks of praise Steve received from those who were directly involved in his ruling on the Hawaiian court.  

The late Israel  Kamakawiwo'ole said it best https://www.youtube.com/Z26BvHOD_sg


06/28/15 06:42 PM #1712    

 

Steven Levinson

Aw, shucks, thanks guys for the kind words.  You just never know when the Big One will fall out of the sky right into your lap.  All it takes is the chutzpah to go with it -- playing by the orthodox and conventional rules.  And if you have any doubt that karma is real, consider that Bill Sinkford and I were debate partners and remain dear friends.  I wanted to perform the first same-sex marriage, but karma gave that privilege to Bill.  

And Phil Ochs, you're quite correct.  "Gay" marriage is a misnomer that has bothered me for over 20 years. So-called "gay marriage" has never been unlawful in the United States, as far as I know.  Over time, millions of LGB people have married -- to persons of the opposite sex -- either because of their closeted and embattled state or simply because love is love.  What we now have is "same-sex" marriage, which entitles LGBT people to express their love and commitment to the person they really want to marry and to live the same dream as straight people.  But the option is now availlable to same-sex straight people too, if that's what they want.


06/28/15 06:45 PM #1713    

 

Steven Levinson

That's Jerry Ochs, of course, not Phil!  Sorry for the unintended compliment, Jerry!


06/28/15 07:14 PM #1714    

 

Barbara Kahn (Tepper)

Laura, I do think that's Dee Goldman next to Kay Davis.  I was already in Losantiville when that Bond Hill picture was taken but I remember many of the people in the class.  

So proud that Steve Levinson is part of our Walnut Hills family!  We have so many distinguished colleagues!


06/28/15 08:34 PM #1715    

 

Philip Spiess

Responding to Jerry's and to Steve's comments on the use of the term "gay":  Just a historical footnote:  Of course we all know that the term "gay" originally meant "jolly" or "happy," or something along those lines ("Don we now our gay apparel").  But I'm not sure that many of you know the origins of "gay" as applied to homosexuality.  Somewhere in the middle of the 19th Century, the term "gay" began to be applied to the cohort of female prostitutes in London, as in "the gay mob"; even to the end of the century (along with Oscar Wilde), homosexual males were still referred to by the term "homosexual," as in a prohibitive law in England passed in the late 1880s, or by the term "inverts" (notice, not "perverts") as used in the budding science of psychology at the time.  It was in the early 20th Century (I suspect in the 1920s), and in America, that the term "gay" began to refer to homosexual males, at first only in circles that discussed such things (possibly as a transfer of the term from females to males, as in the transfer of "sister" and "girl" from one sex to the other in casual slang conversation); later, especially beginning in the 1960s, it entered broader public discourse, as social recognition that this human condition would not go away took hold and as advocates of social equality (or at least parity) demanded to be heard.  And, as you all probably know, the term "lesbian" stems from the ancient Greek poetess Sappho, whose school for girls was located on the Greek isle of Lesbos.  I must confess that I have read all of the surviving poetry of Sappho, and, although it depicts a very feminine world, I cannot say that I see any particular focus on same-sex attraction (and I am very susceptible, as a cultural historian, to recognizing obscene innuendo when it rears its coy head).

As to Phil Ochs versus Jerry Ochs, Phil Ochs was the first folk singer whose protest music attracted my (conservative) attention during my freshman year in college.  I like his songs very much, and I'm sorry he passed away so soon.


06/28/15 08:49 PM #1716    

 

Gail Weintraub (Stern)

Rick Steiner and Gene Stern forwarded this photo taken several days ago at the annual stag party given by Steve Lakamp at his home in Cincinnati.  

                                                                                                               

From left to right: John Courter, Gene Stern, Rick Steiner, Mike Boyers, David Schneider, Larry Horwitz


06/28/15 08:58 PM #1717    

 

Gail Weintraub (Stern)

Ann Pollak Denny sent another Bond Hill School identification for Rick Steiner's Message Forum post #1701. Row 3 from the bottom, 6th person from the left is Randy Castle. 


06/28/15 09:39 PM #1718    

 

Jonathan Marks

Great to see all those handsome young faces in the stag party pic!

To return to another thread:  Actually, it's something a lot of us are familiar with.  Steve Levinson begins a conversation by taking some outrageous position and argues it cogently and eloquently; and though lots of other voices chip in with more conventionally acceptable positions, he doggedly hangs in there, and eventually everyone else gives up and he wins.  The difference is that this time it wasn't a class discussion or a bull-session discussion, but a national one.

 

 


06/29/15 06:20 AM #1719    

 

Larry Klein

For those of us who live in Cincy or will be here on July 17th and want to hear some good old fashioned rock'n roll, here it is:

The jam will be at Hyde Park Square.  I've re-posted this from Stan and Paul's Facebook post.


06/30/15 11:38 AM #1720    

 

Ira Goldberg

Regarding the stag photo. I seem to be unable to find any shine on Larry's head. What's your secret? Or just this cell phone?


06/30/15 06:29 PM #1721    

 

Dale Gieringer

Does anyone have sweet memories of WHHS?

 The news here has been full of stories about students complaining about new "healthy diet" rules that have banished soda pop, candy and sweets from the schools.  Can anyone refresh my distant and age-addled memory regarding what kinds of sweets were available to us at WHHS?    My recollection is that no beverage sweeter than lemonade was served in the cafeteria;  the only bakery goods I remember buying were pie;  donuts may have been available early morning, but if so I never indulged;   cookies and cupcakes were available at bake sales and occasional class parties.  And I'm certain there weren't any candy machines.    Is my memory wrong, or aren't today's kids spoiled compared to us old-timers?   And if this trend of spoilage continues won't society eventually rot through entirely?  (Or maybe not; this trend has been going on since the neolithic revolution and dental hygiene has made enormous strides.) 


06/30/15 06:40 PM #1722    

 

Jeff Daum

Wow Dale, at this point I have absolutely no recollection of any meals during my 6 years at WHHS.  We ate there as well as consumed knowledge? wink


06/30/15 07:05 PM #1723    

 

Stephen (Steve) Dixon

Good stuff, Spiess, on the history of the term 'gay.' I like it. As always, your messages are time well-spent.


07/01/15 12:43 AM #1724    

 

Philip Spiess

Thanks, Steve.

Dale:  I don't remember much about sweets in the cafeteria food line, as half the time I brought a lunch from home, but I do seem to recall that in our earlier years at WHHS, there were vending machines for candy and nuts -- and maybe snacks and soda pop -- in the cafeteria, at what was considered the back of the cafeteria (although it was really the front of the school, under the front steps, i.e., by doors that were used as fire escapes only).  Perhaps some cafeteria pictures taken in that direction in The Remembrancer  (what a name!) would show them (or lack thereof).  Collaterally, I also seem to recall a recall of these machines (i.e., getting rid of them) somewhere along about our sophomore or junior year -- and they were gone, for the same reasons you cite as current "nanny" state "emergencies."  However, there is one other thing I strongly remember:  in 9th Grade, when I had English class over the lunch period (4th Period?), some organization was selling boxes of the candy known as "Turtles," that divinely gooey combination of chocolate and pecans and caramel.  I went long stretches buying them and having them as my only lunch (that is, the whole box), hanging out (with a couple of others) in the English classroom to do so.  I did not, however, add any weight at the time; that came years later (and with it something of a reshaping) -- and that was due, so my doctor tells me, to alcohol, not to sweets (though I believe they both have to do with sugar).  And, of course, there were the bake sales that you mention.

Having taught for eight years in a Middle School, I find that current nutritional experiments are troublesome:  every child seems to have some allergy, ailment, food disorder, or food dislike these days.  If it's not peanut butter, it's gluten (I prefer to pronounce it "glutton"); if it's not dairy products and lactose intolerance, it's chocolate intolerance.  Then there's the promotion of vegan values.  (As a red in the tooth carnivore, I appreciated it when my son, home from his 8th Grade trip to Arizona, brought me a tee-shirt that read "'Vegetarian' -- Ancient Indian Term for 'Bad Hunter'.")  [N.B.:  Yes, I love fresh vegetables and fruit, and don't begrudge vegetarians anything, except their proclivity to try to force their ideas on others.]  But I'll shut up now, except to relate the story of when I was a teacher on the lunchline at Browne Academy where I taught:  My role was to hand out the napkins, plasticware, condiments, snack bags, and the fresh fruit, in order to move the line along.  The kids took the bananas and oranges, but never the lovely apples that the caterer provided.  One day the caterer asked me why that was.  "Because they all wear braces and can't chew them, you idiot!" was my response.

Oh, and (apparently I won't shut up) birthday treats and class parties (don't even speak to me about Valentine's Day, the worst day of the year) got completely out of hand at Browne Academy and had to be curtailed by the administration (it was all the parents' fault).  And I know, from my several years as the "visiting curatorial scholar" at the Smithsonian Institution's National Museum of American History's Division of Medical Sciences, where I was in charge of the national dental collections, that the decline of Western Civilization's collective teeth (caries is the official term for tooth decay) began with the serious introduction of sugar from the east into the western diet.


07/01/15 11:07 AM #1725    

 

Gene Stern

Ira: I think Jim had "grown hair" much as Joe Biden did.  The stag was held at the Stump's Private Club on the Little Miami River. All of us were invited by Steve Lakamp.


07/01/15 05:30 PM #1726    

Bonnie Altman (Templeton)

The meals at the cafeteria were heathful and there weren't machines with junk food.  There were plenty of bakesales:)


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