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01/26/20 08:31 PM #4491    

 

Paul Simons

Yes Jerry I just heard an interview on BBC with a woman, 90 years old now, who was imprisoned there, as a 13-year-old, and was able to leave when the Russian army broke through. We said “Never Again” but when you look at the world - Myanmar, here, even England - you know there's no such thing as "nevrer again". As far as "How many times can a man - or a woman - turn their heads and pretend that they can't see" - again, just looking around, it's a large number. Like you say it's the 75th year since Auschwitz was liberated and it will soon be all of our 75th birthday and the Class of 64's reunion celebrating that fact. Also a fact - a lot of us are here now because our fathers got home from the war about 75 years ago and got started having families. My own father was Army infantry in Europe, 793rd Field Artillery, aiming guns at nazis. God bless him and all the others who took part in defeating them.


01/27/20 07:28 AM #4492    

 

Ira Goldberg

Paul speaks of his dad, Mr. Joseph Simons who, for those unaware, was our English Teacher at WHHS! He made the world and our lives better. 


01/28/20 09:27 PM #4493    

 

Philip Spiess

My father was in the South Pacific during WWII, so he was shooting in the other direction -- and at a different adversary, now our ally, as are now the Germans.

But my inquiry to you all today, as a cultural historian, is:  "What do you think of our National Anthem"?  In order to keep the answers relatively simple and cogent, I will further put some qualifiers on the nature of my inquiry:

(1) Do you like "The Star-Spangled Banner," or do you think another of our traditional patrioric tunes should replace it, or do you think an entirely new anthem should replace it (as occurred in Canada a number of years ago, when they ditched "The Maple Leaf Forever")?

(2) Do you like the tune, John Stafford Smith's musical ode for the Anacreontic Society in London, "To Anacreon in Heaven," and do you think it is at all singable (i.e., as it scales from low to high notes)?  [This is neither the time nor the place to discuss its widely varying performances at sporting events, etc. (some of which are god-awful), which is an entirely different cultural inquiry, and one which -- if pursued -- will lead us completely away from my basic inquiry.]

Oh, and a major note of admonition:  there is no statement in print, law, or tradition that says you should place your hand over your heart when you sing the National Anthem.  You are not taking a pledge; that is reserved for the "Pledge of Allegiance" (about which perhaps more later).


01/29/20 05:40 AM #4494    

 

Jerry Ochs

Phil et al.,

The Star-Spangled Banner?  I won't stand for it.

I'd like America the Beautiful to be the national anthem.  The references to a divine being leave me cold, but the ideas and ideals expressed are uplifting.

 1. Oh, beautiful for spacious skies,
    For amber waves of grain,
    For purple mountain majesties
    Above the fruited plain!
    America! America!
    God shed his grace on thee,
    And crown thy good with brotherhood
    From sea to shining sea.
    
    2. Oh, beautiful for pilgrim feet,
    Whose stern, impassioned stress
    A thoroughfare of freedom beat
    Across the wilderness!
    America! America!
    God mend thine ev’ry flaw,
    Confirm thy soul in self-control,
    Thy liberty in law.
    
    3. Oh, beautiful for heroes proved
    In liberating strife,
    Who more than self their country loved,
    And mercy more than life!
    America! America!
    May God thy gold refine,
    Till all success be nobleness,
    And ev’ry gain divine.
    
    4. Oh, beautiful for patriot dream
    That sees beyond the years
    Thine alabaster cities gleam,
    Undimmed by human tears!
    America! America!
    God shed his grace on thee,
    And crown thy good with brotherhood
    From sea to shining sea.
    
    Text: Katherine Lee Bates, 1859–1929
    Music: Samuel A. Ward, 1848–1903


01/29/20 05:43 AM #4495    

 

Jerry Ochs

Why isn't this song the U.S. national anthem?

The song was a contender for the U.S. national anthem, along with “My Country ‘Tis of Thee” and “The Star Spangle Banner”. In 1931, President Herbert Hoover signed a law that made the “Star Spangled Banner” our national anthem, and that upset many Americans. The effort to change our national anthem has continued on and off since then, with supporters of “America the Beautiful” contending that it more accurately reflects the principles of our country. (They also add that it’s a lot easier to sing!)


01/29/20 03:54 PM #4496    

 

Steven Levinson

Phil, I don't like The Star Spangled Banner.  I don't care whether it's replaced by something else.  (National anthems don't curl my hair particularly.)  I have no preferred replacement.  America the Beautiful is okay.  I'm indifferent to TSSB's tune.  


01/30/20 01:47 AM #4497    

 

Jerry Ochs

This song has also been proposed as a replacement.  It's more upbeat.




01/30/20 09:40 AM #4498    

 

Ann Shepard (Rueve)

In his own words, poet James Weldon Johnson:

Lift Every Voice and Sing

 

A group of young men in Jacksonville, Florida, arranged to celebrate Lincoln’s birthday in 1900. My brother, J. Rosamond Johnson, and I decided to write a song to be sung at the exercises. I wrote the words and he wrote the music. Our New York publisher, Edward B. Marks, made mimeographed copies for us, and the song was taught to and sung by a chorus of five hundred colored school children. 
Shortly afterwards my brother and I moved away from Jacksonville to New York, and the song passed out of our minds. But the school children of Jacksonville kept singing it; they went off to other schools and sang it; they became teachers and taught it to other children. Within twenty years it was being sung over the South and in some other parts of the country. Today the song, popularly known as the Negro National Hymn, is quite generally used. 
The lines of this song repay me in an elation, almost of exquisite anguish, whenever I hear them sung by Negro children.

 

Lift every voice and sing   
Till earth and heaven ring, 
Ring with the harmonies of Liberty; 
Let our rejoicing rise 
High as the listening skies, 
Let it resound loud as the rolling sea. 
Sing a song full of the faith that the dark past has taught us, 
Sing a song full of the hope that the present has brought us.   
Facing the rising sun of our new day begun, 
Let us march on till victory is won. 
 
Stony the road we trod, 
Bitter the chastening rod, 
Felt in the days when hope unborn had died;   
Yet with a steady beat, 
Have not our weary feet 
Come to the place for which our fathers sighed? 
We have come over a way that with tears has been watered, 
We have come, treading our path through the blood of the slaughtered, 
Out from the gloomy past,   
Till now we stand at last 
Where the white gleam of our bright star is cast. 
 
God of our weary years,   
God of our silent tears, 
Thou who hast brought us thus far on the way; 
Thou who hast by Thy might   
Led us into the light, 
Keep us forever in the path, we pray. 
Lest our feet stray from the places, our God, where we met Thee, 
Lest, our hearts drunk with the wine of the world, we forget Thee; 
Shadowed beneath Thy hand,   
May we forever stand.   
True to our God, 
True to our native land.
 

 


01/30/20 07:34 PM #4499    

 

Jerry Ochs

Thanks for posting that, Ann.

If you google Negro National Anthem there are some YouTube examples of the song being sung.

I wonder if every national anthem around the world is supposed to be sung while standing.


01/30/20 11:29 PM #4500    

 

Jerry Ochs

What the Flag Code says about behavior regarding the national anthem:

 36 U.S. Code § 301. National anthem

(a) Designation.—
The composition consisting of the words and music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.
(b) Conduct During Playing.—During a rendition of the national anthem—
(1) when the flag is displayed—
(A) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note;
(B) members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute in the manner provided for individuals in uniform; and
(C) all other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and
(2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.


01/31/20 01:46 AM #4501    

 

Philip Spiess

Two comments:

James Weldon Johnson and his brother, J. Rosamond Johnson, did much in the 1920s and 1930s to research and collect authentic Negro spirituals from the days of slavery and the Underground Railroad; indeed, they published a volume of these (Rosamond was particularly active in this) [see James Weldon Johnson and J(ohn) Rosamond Johnson, eds., The Books of American Negro Spirituals (1925, 1926; New York:  Viking Press, 1940; Boston:  Da Capo Press, 1977; 2009)].  Today we may think of many of these spirituals as being part of the standard repertoire of American music, but at the turn of the century, many of them were in danger of being lost.  (Well up into the 1890s, many African-Americans viewed the spirituals as being too sacred to be sung in public concert, other than within the confines of their own religious gatherings.)  And, by the way, "Lift Every Voice and Sing" has a very fine, invigorating tune.

I am appalled at what the U. S. Flag Code apparently says about "saluting" and/or "pledging" during the National Anthem -- and why it's in the Flag Code at all when we're not talking about the flag but about a song, is anybody's guess -- the two are separate and different things.  Removing hats and helmets (wigs, heads, etc.) during its performance may be a sign of respect, and "saluting" may be a dignified military expression of something or other, but putting one's hand over one's heart should be reserved for the "Pledge of Allegiance" -- because it is a pledge.  I won't go into my tirade about how hypocritical all of this is (i.e., that stuff in the U. S. Code) in light of almost always terrible and shameful performances of the National Anthem at the start of sporting events, where it is too often rendered as a sentimental love ballad or worse, by performers who can't sing worth a damn -- but I just did give you my tirade, didn't I?


01/31/20 02:44 AM #4502    

 

Jerry Ochs

In an attempt to steer the subject in the general direction of Walnut Hills High School, were there flags in the classrooms, were we ever compelled to recite the pledge of allegiance, and were we ever compelled to butcher the national anthem?

Do today's students have to pledge or sing?  Does anybody know?


01/31/20 03:49 PM #4503    

 

Paul Simons

At the risk of being very Politically Incorrect I not only concur in the opinion that the Star Spangled Banner has become the Superstar Strangled Bananarama - “Home of the Braaayy- Aaave, Land of the Freee-yee- EEE!!” - but also I want to turn on my TV to the Stupor Bowl Sunday evening and hear it intoned by Leonard Cohen. Him being dead will make it that much more wholesome family entertainment since American families seem to revel in things with names like Zombie Apocalypse and The Walking Dead. Who knows, there could be a Zombie Apocalypse going on right now right under our noses. Speaking of the Super Bowl I feel cheated and betrayed that on Saturday afternoon TV there are countless shows about cooking, you-can’t-really-do-it-yourself home improvement, and golf but no pro bowling. It may be that the miraculous majestic achievements of many of the Class of ‘64 are the result of pro bowling and pro wrestling shows that inspired us to be the best that we could be.


01/31/20 11:46 PM #4504    

 

Philip Spiess

Once again, Jerry, I'll rise to the occasion and attempt to answer your questions.

I know there were flags in stands in all of the classrooms in Clifton Elementary School; I believe there were at Walnut Hills also, but I'm not certain.  I do not remember reciting the "Pledge of Allegiance" on a daily basis at either school (at Walnut Hills we had morning announcements over the PA system, and then we dashed off to our first class, as I quickly handed back to Nelson Abanto the math notes I had copied -- wait!  I don't think he and I were in the same math class, so it must have been some other class -- chemistry?), but the "Pledge" occasionally began certain assemblies (not all); I think our singing of the national anthem was even rarer.  Classmates, correct me if you think I'm wrong on this; I find my memory is surprisingly foggy on these matters.

When I taught Middle School at a private academy here in Virginia (2005-2013), shortly before I retired, I placed a small American flag in my classroom (it was not required, though it might have been encouraged).  Normally I did not have my homeroom students say the pledge, but every once in a while I did:  on a whim (such as deciding to refresh their memory of the "Pledge"); on a special holiday (such as Flag Day); when I felt it to be appropriate (if, for example, there was an untoward political or military event that had occurred, even a school shooting); or if they were being somewhat cantankerous and I felt the need to sober them up.  Needless to say, flag ceremonies were a standard part of the weekly meetings during the many years that I was a leader in the Boy Scouts of America.

But now, you may ask, how did all of these things occur -- the "Pledge"; the American flag in schools, the "Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag" as a common school occurrence; indeed, American flags on school buildings or on poles in school yards?  You may think it sprang, Venus-like, from the aching head of the Continental Congress -- but you would be wrong.  And you know, cringe as you might under your desks, that I will now tell you how it came to be.

The year was 1892:  it was the 400th anniversary of Christopher Columbus's discovery of the Americas (to his dying day he thought he was in India, hence his name for the natives he found; he never knew there was nor ever landed on the North American mainland; and he knew, as the ancient Greeks and most others for generations knew, that the earth was not flat, it was round -- all they had to do was look at the other heavenly bodies and take a good guess).  So a big celebration (it was the largest exposition that the United States would ever hold) -- a World's Fair in an age of internationally competitive world's fairs -- was planned to be held in Chicago in 1893 (yeah, they got off on their planning a little late), the World's Columbian Exposition, to celebrate "civilization" (i.e., European civilization -- the white man's civilization) coming to the new world and changing world history.  (The Fair, incidentally, sparked the "City Beautiful" Movement, which I mentioned on this Forum at Post #4476.)

Francis Bellamy, a staff member of The Youth's Companion of Boston (published 1827-1929), the most popular and best-selling periodical for young people in the 19th century, was a patriotic and religious enthusiast who tackled onto three forces at work in the America of the period.  One was the lingering effects of the Civil War on American political life and the American psyche (giving rise to national patriotic organizations, such as the Daughters of the American Revolution and the Colonial Dames); one was the sudden and rising tide of eastern and southern European immigration to America (leading to a Caucasian and Protestant nativism movement), and one was the newly pressing movement espousing that local public schools be established to democratically educate the common youth (as opposed to the private schools and religiously-run academies which then predominated).

Bellamy, believing that the World's Columbian Exposition offered the opportunity to galvanize a patriotism which might reunite the factions of the North and South into a unified whole, integrate and solidify the new citizen-immigrants into the proper American way of life, and combine the public school movement with a patriotic indoctrination of American children into love of, and respect for, their country, came up with a public campaign, tied to the national Columbus Day celebration of October, 1892, and focused on the American flag.

And so Bellamy penned his original version of the "Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag" (there had been others earlier, notably George Balch's, but here's Bellamy's original version):  "I pledge allegiance to my flag and the republic for which it stands -- one nation indivisible -- with liberty and justice for all" (Bellamy later added "to" before "the republic" for better cadence).  His boss at The Youth's Companion, James B. Upham, was a promoter and publicizer who tackled onto the idea of selling American flags through the magazine, particularly promoting premiums whereby young readers could purchase flags for their schools.  Then he had the idea to celebrate "Columbus Day" as a national holiday, whereby they could sell flags; he put Bellamy in charge of this national campaign.

The end result (cutting to the chase):  President Benjamin Harrison, egged on by Bellamy, proclaimed the first "Columbus Day" as a national holiday; there was a national program, established and promulgated by Bellamy for the nation's public schools (mostly newly established through President Harrison's push for public schools) to celebrate the day and the American flag with Bellamy's "Pledge of Allegiance," and schools acquired flags, flagpoles, and the "Pledge of Allegiance" to promote patriotism.  State governments followed suite, requiring all public schools in their state to fly the flag on the school building (or on school grounds) and in each classroom, and to encourage (in some cases require) each school to recite the "Pledge of Allegiance" each day at the opening of school.

In 1898, on the day that the United States declared war on Spain, the New York state legislature passed a bill that included a salute to the flag.  State Superintendent of Education Charles Rufus Skinner produced a 470-page (!) Manual of Patriotism.  It included Bellamy's "Pledge," with his directions on how to salute the flag:  "Right hand lifted, palm downward to a line with the forehead and close to it, standing thus, all repeat together slowly [Bellamy's Pledge].  At the words, 'to my Flag,' the right hand is extended gracefully, palm upwards towards the Flag and remains in this gesture to the end of the affirmation; whereupon all hands immediately drop to the side."  (If you were paying attention, you noticed that the latter part of this salute is akin to the later -- and infamous -- Nazi salute.)

Some later events in the history of the "Pledge of Allegiance" and the flag:  In 1899 the Grand Army of the Republic (the influential organization of Northern, i.e., Union, Civil War veterans) officially endorsed the Bellamy salute and by 1905 was pushing for its members in the various states to lobby state legislators to pass laws requiring every schoolhouse in the state to fly the flag daily.  With America's entry into World War I (1917), the demand for American flags hit an all-time high; coincidentally, between April, 1916, and May, 1917, the cost of American flags increased 100% to 300%!  By 1918 and the end of the war, adoration of the flag had reached a pitch which can only be described (and was) as "religious."  Thus, as more and more states adopted Uniform Flag laws, legal prosecutions for desecrating or "insulting" the flag rose, a situation which, as you know, has continued to this day, with a high point being the 1960s' anti-Vietnam War protests.

In 1919, the state of Washington, roiled by political unrest due to union agitation (notably by the Industrial Workers of the World -- the IWW, or "Wobblies") and fearing the worst (the spectre of the recent Russian Revolution was on everybody's mind), passed a state law which required that Bellamy's "Pledge of Allegiance" and salute be recited and given at least once a week in every school; failure to follow the law was a criminal misdemeanor!  This began a trend of mandatory observance in public schools, until in 1943 (at the height of World War II) the Supreme Court of the United States found the practice of forcing students to say the "Pledge" to be unconstitutional.

In the meantime, the American Legion's National Americanism Commission (note the anti-immigration name) recommended that Bellamy's "Pledge" be the nation's official pledge of allegiance.  It was this Commission which changed the words "my flag" (in 1923 and 1924) to "the flag of the United States of America" -- to ensure that immigrant children were not swearing allegiance to the wrong flag.  It was also this Commission which formalized the "Pledge" salute's first half to be "right hand over the heart" (but at the words "to the flag," the right hand was to extend to the flag in that notorious straight-arm salute).  [Military were to continue to use the traditional military salute.]  Once all of this was established by the 1924 American Legion Commission, the flag code was published in the Boy Scout handbook.  And both the American Legion and the Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW) successfully pushed for the U. S. Flag Code to be passed into law (P. L. 829, 77th Congress, 2nd Session) on June 22, 1942.

But it was the threat of Communism in the early 1950s that inspired the last change to the "Pledge of Allegiance."  Sponsors of the Congressional bill to insert the words "under God" into the "Pledge" declared that this change would underscore the difference between our democratic system and "Godless communism."  Amid bipartisan support, Congress approved the change and President Eisenhower signed it into law on Flag Day, June 14, 1954.  So, how many of you remember this change from your elementary school days?


02/01/20 01:44 AM #4505    

 

Jerry Ochs

This is a photograph of the Bellamy salute, which was abandoned for obvious reasons in 1942.

 


02/01/20 11:02 AM #4506    

 

Judy Holtzer (Knopf)

Bellamy salute: speechless.


02/01/20 11:48 AM #4507    

 

Barbara Kahn (Tepper)

Paul Simon - There is pro-bowling still on tv! We watch it sometimes.  It doesn't seem to be from Akron Ohio now like it used to be but it is still on each week.  I saw the tournaments from TX and OK.  

https://www.flobowling.com/articles/6549402-pba-releases-jam-packed-schedule-for-first-half-of-2020

I will watch anything but politics.  

Barbara


02/02/20 07:57 PM #4508    

 

Philip Spiess

Hmm, interesting.  Although the Francis Bellamy-recommended salute to the flag during his "Pledge of Allegiance" states that "the right hand is extended gracefully, palm upwards towards the Flag," I note suddenly that it is the right hand -- not arm -- that is to be extended.  Having tested this, my conclusion is that, if the right arm is extended (as I originally thought), to have the palm upwards usually means that the wrist is rotated to put the palm upwards -- but it can mean simply to elevate the palm vertically upwards at an almost right angle from the wrist, so as to hold up the hand in the traditional "Stop!" position to the flag.

I do not know which position Bellamy intended, nor is it indicated in any of the statements about the "Pledge."  What suddenly attracted my attention to this matter is that the position of "palm upwards," in either case, is not particularly natural if it is the arm which is extended (rather than the hand) -- hence the prevalence of the Nazi salute.  On looking closely at the photograph which Jerry Ochs offers, the children have extended their right arm instead of their hand, and that, in the great majority of cases (possibly all), the palm is positioned downwards.  No wonder, in mid-World War II, the salute was abruptly changed (encouraged by President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, after Lincoln's supposed gesture toward the American flag during the dedication ceremonies at Gettysburg) to just placing one's hand over one's heart.


02/02/20 09:16 PM #4509    

 

Paul Simons

Just a couple of replies - thanks Barbara for the link to the PBA page. Very, very interesting. About the other items - the Bellamy/nazi salute and also the swastika that went with it - wherever they started, are now permanently desecrated, used by people who want to show the hate that they feel to the world. About the "Under God" addition to The Pledge of Allegiance I do remember the fact that there was debate about it. I hope it doesn'r offend anyone that I would have preferred something acceptable to Chris Hitchens, may God rest his soul. Also FYI the NPR announcer tells me that today, Feb 2, 2020 written numerically is a palindrome - reads the same in either deirection - 02022020.


02/02/20 09:26 PM #4510    

 

Jerry Ochs

In an idiotic (my apologies to any of our classmates who are idiots) attempt to tie two threads together, Gorgeous George thought the national anthem should be America the Gorgeous.


02/03/20 07:41 PM #4511    

 

Dale Gieringer

   I remember well when the words "under God"  were inserted in the pledge.   Our 2nd grade teacher informed us. One of our memorable tasks as kindergarteners had been to memorize the words to the pledge.  It involved learning the meaning of impressive Latinate words such as "allegiance," "republic" and "indivisible."   I remember feeling that the rhythm of the pledge had been violated by the abrupt introduction of two short Anglo Saxon words of religious, rather than patriotic, connotation.  On those (now rare) occasions that one is obliged to recite it, I prefer to stick to "one nation indivisible"  rather than let God divide the concept.  To answer Jerry's question, I don't believe there were flags in every room, but there was always one on hand for us to pledge to at assemblies.  As for the Star-Spangled Banner, we were required to memorize all four verses in Mrs. Murphy's 7th grade music class.  She tested us by having us write down all the words in class, with points off for misspelling and mispunctuation, though she never tested whether we could carry the tune properly.


02/03/20 11:02 PM #4512    

 

Philip Spiess

Dale, I, too, felt that a "Pledge" that I had already memorized pretty well had its cadence thrown off balance by the new words in 1954 (not that I could have articulated what "cadence" meant at that age).

And I had memorized all four verses to "The Star-Spangled Banner" in 2nd Grade (that had to have been the same year, 1954), where I sang them for the class (yeah, I was that kind of guy).  It is the 3rd verse which remains least known, and which has the most deliciously macabre imagery.

In the 1970s (probably for the American Bicentennial), I memorized the words (at least the first verse) to John Stafford Smith's "To Anacreon in Heaven," the origin of the tune and the basis for the metrical rhythm for Francis Scott Key's poem.  I sang it at least once (possibly twice) in the 1980s in a Teutonic Toast with the bar-wench at Gadsby's Tavern in Old Town, Alexandria, Virginia, when we took Smithsonian fellowship students there for an evening of Public Table (which re-created a late 18th-century atmosphere and tavern dining experience).


02/04/20 08:09 AM #4513    

 

Chuck Cole

When I am at an event where the pledge is recited in unison, I pause while other says "under God" and then resume  with the rest of the pledge.  I'm not sure if I did this from the beginning, but it has certainly been many decades that I've done this.  I doubt that I understood enough to be philosphical about this back in 1954.  And I doubt that it was political.  


02/04/20 03:08 PM #4514    

 

Steven Levinson

I'm with Chuck.  I pause, too.  They got the words right the first time.


02/11/20 01:32 PM #4515    

 

Steven Levinson

Richard Winter, thanks a million for tending to our (your) website.  We'd be lost without you.


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