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06/11/17 12:03 PM #2956    

Richard Montague

I will agree with Ed on one point because no one else will . There is enough coverage in the papers and on TV to cover boths sides of a divided nation no need for it on this site. It is a pleasure to come here for a little distraction ------- next we will need a safe space for those who have had their feelings hurt.

 


06/11/17 12:58 PM #2957    

 

Ed Seykota

Steven,

Thank you for responding to my post, with passion and with depth.  Thanks, as well, to my other blogmates for chipping in.

The stain-glass window in the dining room of the Sigma Chi house at MIT has the inscription, “Strive mightily and eat and drink as friends."  I view universities, prep schools and other gatherings of scholars (including this blog), as crucibles in which colleagues share views - and come to sinter their experiences and amalgamate their character with strength, integrity, wisdom and compassion.

Each gathering has its own rules for managing conflict, particularly regarding the boundaries between arguing the facts, applying wit and waging personal attack. This blog, too, has rules of engagement, sometimes inconsistent. This mirrors the current situation in the US.

For example, consider your post to me in which you proclaim a no-personal-attack rule and then immediately proceed to fire off a series of not-so-subtle innuendos.

Since you raise the issue of my absence from '64 and '63 I might as well supplement your research by adding '61 to the absentee list; my pass-through WHHS stay includes part of '62.

Sometimes I do wonder about '63 and '64. I gather by engaging this blog, I may suffer from lack of important upper-level classwork in the core topics of “Hiding Behind Innuendo,” “Making Up Rules and then Immediately Breaking Them,” “Passive-Aggressive Debating Techniques” and of course, the ever popular “Political Correctness.” Oh well, life has many trade-offs.

In any event, I invite you to emerge from the sorry shadows of innuendo, out into the bright, fierce sunshine in which you say what you really feel, without fear or reservation. Perhaps you can simulate the feeling by taking a deep breath and letting it let it out with a big ol' grin.

I do not oppose comments about the current state of our nation – I welcome them. I, too, have very deep concerns about our economy and our culture and share them back-and-forth with others. I also prefer dealing with basic issues rather than drifting over into the snide side. 

This here name-calling issue applies to the recent election as well as to this blog. Consider the argument: we need a wall and less government and the press reports fake news and hate the opponent. Consider the opposing argument: hate the opponent – he has really bad hair. One has slightly more content – the other has better snide.

The obsession with personal attack has a steep price, such as missing the low-hanging logical fruit: “Protectionism leads to inflation, stagnation and war – and ladders and drones cost a lot less than walls anyway.” The minority party continues to descend into disarray as it obsesses about impeaching the bad guy and abnegates its role as the loyal opposition to policy.

Another sensitive issue without much coverage: how to deal with politicians such as McCain and Pelosi as they start to show signs of aging. People default to name calling and to posting endless-looping spoonerism clips.

And speaking of aging, I'd like to formally name this elephant in the forum, the vital theme we all have in common. Mortality receives little mention here despite frequent notices of classmates, one by one, passing on. We do still have some choices: go kicking and screaming into the night; quiet desperation, procrastinate in preparing wills; ignore it altogether; stay in the now and share with others.

For examples of the later, I applaud Dave Buchholz for sharing his brilliant photos, Phil Spiess, for sharing his ever-twisty wit and Henry Cohen for sharing some clear and refreshingly self-revelatory boundary growling.

So my invitation to you, and to the rest of the currently surviving members of this class: get into the now and share your current interests and let your thoughts and feelings out strong on matters of vital interest to you – without defaulting to the narrow arc of trading lame neener-neener's.

Meanwhile, please count on me to stand at my watch post, as the self-appointing intermittent class curmudgeon, in the mode of the incorrigibly loud, overbearing, imperious and hypocritical Colonel Jessup, ever ready to share my feelings, and excite some lively response, as best as I can.

 

 


06/11/17 03:01 PM #2958    

 

Steven Levinson

Ed,

I must say, no one has ever characterized my debating techniques as passive-aggressive before.  They are, and always have been, purely aggressive, albeit, hopefully, decorous and effective.  I didn't make up the no-personal-attack rule of engagement for this website; those who did can identify themselves if they choose.  And I generally disdain political correctness, although you and I both know that at times convention and simple good manners require adherence to certain social norms.  In another life, I'd have liked nothing more than to chat with you about the current state of our nation.  Like you, addressing the current state of our nation has been my vocation -- one way or another -- for the last 45 years.  I read your blog link that you provided in an earlier posting and very much admired and respected the analytical framework within which you accounted for the social-political-economic dynamic that has led to where we are as a country.  I agreed with much if not all of what you had to say.

My June 9 response to you was not prompted by your personal politics, to which you are entitled and which, as a civil libertarian, I would defend to the death your right to hold.  Rather, I was reacting to what Nelson correctly characterized as your vulgar, disgusting cyber bullying that I also viewed as unacceptable.  I hope that such verbalizations will cease and desist.  Something else that you and I both know is that acts have consequences.

And now, with or without your permission, I will return to celebrating my wedding anniversary and getting on with the rest of my life.


06/11/17 05:32 PM #2959    

 

Ed Seykota

Steve,

Thank you for your thoughtful response and for motivating me to remove the offending post, #2937.  Congratulations on your anniversary !

Ed


06/11/17 07:14 PM #2960    

 

Ann Shepard (Rueve)

To Ed, and only Ed, you refer to this website as a "blog".  

We all know blogs.  Blog on elsewhere!

This is a place where we ALL can feel safe, sharing our reminiscences.  For those who cannot, this is not the forum. 

 

 


06/11/17 07:15 PM #2961    

 

Steven Levinson

Ed,

And thank you for your last posting and the deletion of the earlier one. Much appreciated.  I suspect that you and I would get a kick out of getting to know one another.  With luck, that's in the cards.  I'm happy to report that the wedding anniversary is proceeding nicely.  

Best,

Steve

 


06/11/17 11:27 PM #2962    

 

Ira Goldberg

Tonight at the Tony Awards, our dear friend Rick Steiner, was pictured among many memorialized this year for their contributions to theater. He is missed, indeed, but the smile - as was shown - goes on and on.  


06/12/17 01:05 PM #2963    

 

Stephen (Steve) Dixon

For my part, I like the idea of this forum being a politics-free zone. There seems to be an almost limitless number of ways in which the daily political roar intrudes. I myself am an avid intruder in some of those arenas.

However, it is kind of nice to have a few places to go to escape.

OTOH, I think someone ought to be able to post that they voted, or are traveling to DC for a march etc. As long as one can do it without appending a political screed, I take it as just a personal activity update.

Just my thoughts.
 


06/12/17 03:37 PM #2964    

 

Stephen Collett

Whoaa, Philip. Not to get political, but it doesn´t appear that you may actually know Morocco, fetid fish my foot. Fetid fish is from Norway! But I have just been two weeks with my son-in-law to his family home in Rabat and can vouch for the food. Two of his (four) dear sisters manning the kitchen (usually only an older brother lives there alone) with two hot meals a day and constant coffee/tea with their fine small pastries.


06/12/17 04:23 PM #2965    

 

Philip Spiess

Okay, Steve, not your foot -- my foot (in mouth).  Though I do cook Moroccan periodically, and even make preserved lemons myself (along with the occasional tagine), "fetid fish" had an alliterative ring to it and sounded "spookier" than "fermented fish" (it was after 1:00 a.m. in the morning, and I was obviously thinking of -- not Moroccan, not Norwegian -- but Hawaiian taro root and fish.  (Ho, poi!  Did I get myself into that one!)  Or perhaps I'm just ethnically tone-deaf:  my herring is bad.  And if you were in Rabat, I'm sure you had a capital time there!


06/13/17 04:22 PM #2966    

 

Stephen Collett

Have you had the pickled toes? Comatose.

And you might also have noticed that Homo sapiens has been found in Morocco 100,000 yrs before East Africa!

Where is the cradle of civilization?


06/13/17 06:08 PM #2967    

 

Philip Spiess

Old joke from Cincinnati German restaurants (of which there are not too many these days, according to Larry Klein):  "Does the cook have pickled pigs' feet today?"  "Couldn't tell; she had her shoes on."

Yes, I had noted the Moroccan Homo Sapiens.  What does that tell those folk in Williamstown, Kentucky, with the Ark?  (See entries above, if you missed this discussion.)

After some lengthy debate with myself (and it was pretty heated, too, given that it was about 100 degrees with high humidity in northern Virginia today -- the "Swamp" downtown must be heating up again), I have come to the conclusion that the Cradle of Civilization was (is) in Cleveland, Ohio, because that is the home of the "Rock-and-Roll Hall of Fame," and, as we know from Walt Whitman ("Out of the Cradle Endlessly Rocking" -- Sea-Drift, ca. 1858), the cradle endlessly rocks.


06/13/17 08:40 PM #2968    

 

Bruce Fette

To Stephen Dixon, and other WHHS classmates who may decide to come to the greater DC area for Marches or other reasons,

Please let us know you are coming. I am sure that the DC locals would love to meet up and share the lastest ideas.

Thanks,

Bruce

 


06/13/17 11:46 PM #2969    

 

Gail Weintraub (Stern)

The second of two videos taken at our 2016 LXX Birhday Reunion has just been posted. To view it, click on the tab "Video: LXX Talk Around 2016" in the blue column on the left.

The next video postings will be those taken at our                                 Three Quarter/ 0.75/ 3/4 Reunion in Cincinnati in June, 2021. 

ENJOY!


06/14/17 12:09 PM #2970    

Henry Cohen

I think the cradle of civilization was left in the storage room of my first apartment. Of course our great great great....ancestors were not really that great because they didn't have twitter or Walmart. 


06/15/17 02:54 PM #2971    

 

Stephen Collett

Is there anyone else who has Bonnie Raitt and Norah Jones singing Tennessee Waltz as their must see? Or Norah and Keith Richards, Love Hurts? Or what is it with Norah Jones? How old is she?

OK, moving on. I just want to put it into the conversation that I find the "political no-go" a bit stilted for our fellowship. I certainly don´t think that we should in any way criticize each other for political opinions here. But I would like to feel that we are in some ways a consultative group. I am equally happy to receive views from any side in a discussion, and I am proud of the diversity and breadth we represent. This isn´t Rotary for Christ´s sake.


06/15/17 07:58 PM #2972    

 

Philip Spiess

Speaking of Rotary, have you ever tried pigs' feet on the rotisserie?  And Henry, our ancestors may have not been that great, but apparently they did have the Paleo diet.


06/15/17 08:25 PM #2973    

 

Gail Weintraub (Stern)

Due to a technical issue, the previously posted video from the LXX B'day Bash 'Talk Around' has been temporarily removed. I will notify you when it is back online. I'm sorry for the delay. 


06/15/17 08:59 PM #2974    

 

Jerry Ochs

When racoons are outlawed, only outlaws will have racoons.

 


06/16/17 08:38 PM #2975    

 

Philip Spiess

There's obviously a story here, if any racoonteur would tell it.


06/17/17 01:51 PM #2976    

 

Ann Shepard (Rueve)

Today is the anniversary of our LXX Reunion, beginning with the gathering at Dave Schneider's. 

The following are links to memories that popped up on my Facebook timeline that went directly to Facebook in a Live Feed. This is the only way I know to share some candid video.  If you aren't on Facebook, I'm not sure you'll be able to access the videos unless you create an account.  THe videos include our greeting each other on the lawn, and the Simons/Katona/Buchholz impromptu session with Dave on lead vocal (and an assist from Mike White).  What a fun time!

 

https://www.facebook.com/ann.rueve/videos/10154127293351826/

https://www.facebook.com/ann.rueve/videos/10154127337581826/

https://www.facebook.com/ann.rueve/videos/10154127518321826/

https://www.facebook.com/ann.rueve/videos/10154127565751826/


06/17/17 02:24 PM #2977    

 

Steven Levinson

Ann, you're amazing.


06/17/17 09:17 PM #2978    

 

Jeff Daum

Ann, I'd love to see them but I guess I am one of the few hold outs and neither Facebook or Tweet.  surprise


06/18/17 07:47 PM #2979    

 

Dale Gieringer

 

Not to spoil a good story, but....

Alabama police's fake mugshot post takes on a life of its own

June 16 (UPI) -- An Alabama police department's fake mugshot with a made-up story about "possession of a wild raccoon" has created a viral legend on Facebook.

Moulton City Police officer Russell Graham concealed the hoax mugshot among other mugshots posted on the department's Facebook page and captioned it with the alleged crimes of "Barry Larry Terry."  ........

 

I'm with Jeff  - no Facebook or Twitter, but still alive and kicking.
Dale

06/18/17 09:39 PM #2980    

 

Bruce Fette

Does anyone know of a way to move these videos to utube or other distribution mechanism for the rest of us?

Thanks,

Bruce

 

 


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