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03/20/18 11:18 AM #3423    

 

Philip Spiess

Jerry, I am pleased to report that in 11th-Grade APP English with Miss Ross, Irving Crandall and I did our required topical bulletin board on "Humor in Literature" (no surprise there), in which the distinction between "parody" and "satire" figured prominently.  So, yes, WHHS graduates should know the difference.

And no, you are not a curmudgeon (well, maybe you are, but not in the linguistic sense):  I myself am driven crazy currently by the constant misuse, by both politicians and commentators, of the word "fulsome."  As The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language (my standard) points out in its "Usage" section, "Fulsome is often misapplied . . . by those who think that the term is equivalent merely to full and abundant" -- and that is precisely how these noddies are using it!  (Or perhaps I'm a curmudgeon, if not an actual pedant, as well -- but see George Orwell on "The Principles of Newspeak.")  The other word that you will hear in constant misuse today is "simplistic," which does not mean "simple, " but rather "oversimplified," usually referring to an issue or problem that has been treated by ignoring complexities or complications (cf., AHD) -- but maybe that's the very reason why it's being used so much by politicians today.

As to the entries just preceding Jerry's, all I can say is that I had to flat-out retire when my car hit a fork in the road.


03/20/18 12:40 PM #3424    

 

Paul Simons

As graduates of a particular high school, or of no high school - just as supposed adults in their 70's at this point - we should have the grace to forego whatever pleasure is derived from nit-picking insults aimed at one another. That's my opinion. Obviously opinions will vary, and the razor-sharp linguistic blades on display here will surely have their ways with mine.


03/20/18 12:43 PM #3425    

 

Jeff Daum

Well stated Paul.


03/20/18 01:00 PM #3426    

 

Paul Simons

Thanks Jeff. 


03/20/18 08:33 PM #3427    

 

Jerry Ochs

I think I'm too blunt to be razor sharp, and I apologize.

Regarding the caf food (not to be misread as "cat food" by aged eyes) I can still taste the iodine in the fish that was served on Fridays.  Class survey: Was the macaroni and cheese good or bad?


03/20/18 08:54 PM #3428    

Henry Cohen

Good or bad often depended on whether you were hungry or not. I just remember marveling at Gary Beck spending over a dollar at lunch, 50 to 60 cents was my limit.


03/21/18 07:19 AM #3429    

 

Paul Simons

Thanks Jerry, accepted. Regarding the cafeteria I just realized that there don’t seem to be any of them left. One of my first experiences sliding a plastic or in those days maybe bakelite tray along that aluminum track and putting a bowl of this or a plate of that on it was at the cafeteria im the basement of the Netherland Hilton in downtown Cincinnati. The food quality might not have been any better than at the WHHS caf but the entree choices were of course different. Re: Henry’s query - was there mac and cheese? If so was it better or worse than the WHHS version? I can’t remember anything about either one. Sorry - pinwheels and chuckwagon chowder, and jello cubes, red, maybe green as well, that’s all I can recall.


03/21/18 05:09 PM #3430    

 

Dale Gieringer

In response to Jerry's survey - I would rate the the macaroni & cheese as one of the more acceptable, though blander, attractions on the WHHS menu.  My favorite was hot dogs and beans.  They were economical, too: $.36 for two dogs + milk.   Cheeseburgers also passable, but too plain.    At the high end, I'd treat myself to roast beef & mashed potatoes w/ milk and cherry pie - not a bad deal for  $.52.   Ah, for the days when pocket change was still worth something.   


03/21/18 05:46 PM #3431    

 

Gail Weintraub (Stern)

I'm amazed that you can remember not only the meals served but also the prices. The only dish that I can recall--and I always bought it--was Johnny Marzetti. I bet you can also remember what day of the week it was on the menu! And, the price??


03/22/18 06:58 AM #3432    

 

Laura Reid (Pease)

I also am amazed by what you all remember about the lunchroom....the only “entree” I recall was a hamburger dish, I think called hamburger hash, maybe.  It was really a sloppy joe, but not as tomato-y as the norm.  I always ordered it and then somehow got the recipe.  The only thing that was odd is that it had Kitchen Bouquet in it.  I don’t even know if you can buy Kitchen Bouquet any more.....


03/22/18 08:36 AM #3433    

Jon Singer

ok. I'm in on this.  At North Avondale Elementary, lunch( with federal supported milk) was $.26. If you wanted "seconds" of anything, you had to fork over an additional $.26.  Jon Osher and I committed our parents to additional funds on the days they served a heavy milk based, lightly tomato pasted sloppy joe. I can't remember the official name of this delight.  Mom ultimately wrote and received the recipe from the Cincinnati Public School. She divided the 10 pounds of ground beef, 4 number 10 cans of, etc. and served it to us at home. It was never as good.

And as long as I am in the food memory lane, we all took a train from Winton Station to the rotunda, sat on those beautiful leather chairs and ate in the main dining area.  When I got home from this 4th grade field trip I described the appearance and speculated contents of the marvelous sandwich I had consumed.  Mom informed me I had eaten an egg salad sandwich!

 


03/22/18 11:56 AM #3434    

 

Ira Goldberg

While remembering little of school lunches, I vote for sloppy joes, hands down. Jon, the train to D.C. was my favorite trip of childhood. Winton Place station seemed like it was awaiting us, since few folks boarded at the  time. $100 for tickets and a week vacation! Having been born there, I had family friends to visit after our move to Cincy. The overnight trip offered good food and sleep. And no forks looming above like swords of Damocles. 


03/22/18 07:41 PM #3435    

 

Jerry Ochs

In addition to remembering the menu and the prices, does anybody remember the decor?   Were the walls painted yellow or yellowed by time?  Were they some other color?  Was the floor plain linoleum or linoleum squares of two colors?  Long live J. Marzetti Esq.!


03/22/18 10:06 PM #3436    

 

Philip Spiess

I would have said that the walls were light green or light gray.  The acoustical ceiling tiles were light beige with the occasional water or other stain or broken corners, and sparkling with the silver glints of the random metal fork adhering thereto.  I don't think the floor tiles were multi-colored, just scuffed and somewhat dirty.


03/23/18 03:58 PM #3437    

 

David Buchholz

More stuff that has nothing to do with WHHS, but because I spent a lot of time on this, I like to share it.  I read this quote from a 25 year old Canadian photographer, Elizabth Gadd, that continues to resonate with me:  “This is my art.  When I share it, I hope others can feel even a glimpse of how I felt taking each of these photos.  If my work can connect deeply with even just one person (even if that person is just me), then I’m happy.” 

We just returned from a sixteen day hiking/sailing trip to Patagonia that included disembarking at Cape Horn and hanging out wth the lighthouse keeper.  I had some extradordinary photographic opportunities and I'm filling up some pixels on this site to share some of them.

Frightened guanaco, Chile.


03/23/18 03:59 PM #3438    

 

David Buchholz

Glacial Ice, Gray Lake, Torres del Pane, Chile


03/23/18 04:00 PM #3439    

 

David Buchholz

Sunrise, Torres del Pane, Chile


03/23/18 04:01 PM #3440    

 

David Buchholz

Magellanic Penguin, Magdalena Island, Chile


03/23/18 04:05 PM #3441    

 

David Buchholz

Straits of Magellan.

If you're not bored already, you can plow through dozens more at...

http://www.davidkbuchholz.com/patagonia-2018/


03/23/18 04:08 PM #3442    

 

David Buchholz

Or just look at this last one.  Guanacos grazing at Torres del Pane, Chile.


03/23/18 06:00 PM #3443    

 

Dale Gieringer

  I recall the walls being grayish-green, with some areas of white.  The acoustic tiles were a later addition.  Their installation precipitated the fork crisis when people discovered that they could stick forks into them.  Once someone stuck a cherry pie on the ceiling, which inspired me to write a philosophical essay for  Ms. McCammon's English class regarding destiny and cherry pie.

 


03/24/18 12:11 AM #3444    

 

Philip Spiess

David, the first three pictures and the last one, given their lighting, look like paintings (and that is intended as a compliment -- remember what Oscar Wilde once said about a sunset, that it looked like a poor imitation of a painting by Turner).

Dale:  "Destiny and cherry pie"?  Aside from George Washington or cherries being stoned as their destiny for pie, I'm missing something here.

[Introduction to Philosophy 101, or, Lunchroom Follies:  False Simple Syllogism:  Proposition A (Major Premise):  "You can stick a fork into cherry pie."  Proposition B (Minor Premise):  "You can stick a fork in the ceiling."  Therefore, Proposition C (Deductive Conclusion):  "You can stick a cherry pie on the ceiling."  Ba-Da-Bing (cherry) and Sha-Boom!]


03/24/18 07:37 AM #3445    

 

Paul Simons

Beautiful work Dave. Beautiful. And I agree with the penguin's expression - "Pardon me sir - excellent camera - but might I ask a question? Could you humans possibly speed up your exit from our planet? You know you're wrecking the place - yes, you know that - so would you either stop it, or leave? Thank you so much."

03/25/18 03:19 PM #3446    

 

Mary Vore (Iwamoto)

Beautiful pictures Dave - I enjoyed the entire series.  Thank you for sharing  - know that  you connected with many of us who viewed them! 


03/25/18 11:29 PM #3447    

 

Philip Spiess

Following hard on the heels of the many reminiscenes (the good, the bad, and the ugly) of WHHS food fare in our dear old school days of yore (yo're either likin' it or hatin' it), we bring you now selections from today's The Washington Post Magazine, which, as luck would have it, has a pictorial feature section on "A Sampling of the Lunch Options at [Washington] Area Elementary Schools."  Herewith are some of the options:

Alexandria, Va. (city just south of D. C.):  "Apple cinnamon Texas toast; baked potato wth queso blanco sauce and turkey bacon; strawberries; mixed salad; 1 percent milk."

Loudon County, Va. (horse and wine country west of D. C.):  "Sunbutter (made from sunflower seeds, hence, peanut-free) and jelly sandwich; tomato soup; vegetables; fruit; fat-free chocolate milk."

Prince George's County, Maryland (southeast of D. C., a largely African-American community): "Oven-fried chicken; tomato; cucumber and onion salad; applesauce; fat-free chocolate milk; dinner roll."

Prince William County, Va. (a somewhat Southern conservative community, just south of D. C., where my son is a firefighter):  "Baked ziti with garlic bread; yellow [!] and orange carrots; kale and red cabbage with blueberries, sunflower seeds, and cranberries; pears; fat-free milk."

And last, but not least, Washington, D. C., itself (where the public schools are largely African-American, and definitely under-funded):  "Barbecue chicken drumstick; Spanish rice; jerk lentils [?]; garden bar vegetables; apple; 1 percent milk."

Nice, huh?  And, yes, somebody's making a mint on sunflower seeds!  (Anybody know what is served to the WHHS students these days?)  In the eight years I taught at Browne Academy, a private school just outside of Alexandria, Va., in Fairfax County, I was required on occasion to help serve on the lunchtime food line.  The outside-catered fare there was not unlike some of that listed above; the students had a choice of salad bar, sandwich bar, and hot food bar (or all three), as well as snack chips, fruit, and milk.  The caterer, who provided beautiful-looking apples, could not understand why no Middle School student took any.  "You need to pay attention," I said; "at their age, they are all wearing dental braces!"

I have not mentioned in these pages my own memories of lunch at WHHS, other than remarking on the foibles of others.  I believe I took a packed lunch from home most of the time.  On the occasions that I did go through the hot lunch line, I studiously avoided the soup, which was first in the lunch line and into which the shop-class boys, always first to go to lunch, would drop nuts and bolts and such; at least once someone found chewed chewing gum in their soup (does that make it "gumbo"?).  I also remember that throughout my 9th- or 11th-grade year (or maybe both), I would spend my lunch money, instead of on lunch, on paperback books which we could buy, and curb my hunger by buying and consuming boxes of "Turtles," that confection of pecans, caramel, and chocolate, that someone or some organization was selling.  It's a wonder that I survived to the ripe old age of 72, which I turn on Tuesday, along with my son Philip, who turns 27.


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