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10/13/23 03:26 PM #6548    

 

Margery Erhardt (Feller)

I, too, have been thinking of Judy and praying for her and her country. This is such a tragedy and I hope that Judy and her family are well and safe!!!!! Prayers for Israel!!!!


10/13/23 10:25 PM #6549    

 

Paul Simons

I have corresponded with Judy several times on this app and I sent her a message using that part of it several days ago. I haven't heard back. She listed her address as in Modiin, more central, farther from gaza. Speaking of that I understand that some in the "international community" are upset with the Israeli response to mass murder and I wonder what they would prefer. Should the Israelis just quietly bury their dead and put out milk and cookies for the next wave of attackers?

Seriously this goes back to the partition of the British Mandate into a Muslim country Jordan and a Jewish country Israel by the UN in 1948. The surrounding Arab countries didn't like it and all attacked Israel which somehow beat them back and it's been like that since. ISIS and Hamas both want the whole region to be an Islamic Caliphate. That's what's behind attack and retaliation time after time and various measures on the ground which haven't brought security to Israel. In my opinion as long as an ideology of religious extremism that demands the annihilation of Israel holds power war and the suffering it causes will not end. 

Personally I don't believe in any supernatural beings and I wonder if people are still around a thousand years from now if they'll find some other way of knowing who they are besides which non-existent supernatural being they identify with. As long as I'm on the subject this country has a history of replacing fact with fiction to disastrous ends - there was all kinds of junk science that allowed this place to be a radical white supremacist hellhole for generations. Until some politicians who are still using it start losing elections we will be in an ongoing disaster right here at home.


10/14/23 07:29 AM #6550    

 

Jerry Ochs

Judy Holtzer Knopf has an account on Facebook.  I don't.  However, I did track down her podiatrist and asked him to ask her to contact us on this website


10/14/23 10:32 AM #6551    

 

Ira Goldberg

 

All WHHS '64 classmates: I reached Judy's brother, David. This is a copy of his reply this morning. Last two words say it all! 

"Hello Ira. 
Yes my sister moved to the city of Modiin a few years ago. She is near her youngest boy...she also has 24/7 helper. Lots of back pain,  not very mobile. But safe!" 

 


10/14/23 04:18 PM #6552    

 

Paul Simons

Thanks Ira and Happy Birthday. Like always I caution against any public listing of actual date of birth information as it's a valuable piece of information to hackers so - if it's in mid- or late-October or early- or mid-November, enjoy.


10/14/23 07:12 PM #6553    

 

Jerry Ochs

Judy's doctor replied: She's fine.  I passed along the message.


10/15/23 04:28 PM #6554    

 

Ira Goldberg

I had a good conversation with Judy this morning. To add to Jerry's post, she sounds good. I'll share a few comments with her approval. Judy is very moved to hear that WHHS classmates care about her well being and how things are going there. She and fellow residents of Israel were touched by President Biden's remarks. She wants to reassure us that she is safe in a Modiin apartment (52 miles from Gaza; 45 minutes to Tel Aviv), near her youngest son's family. Like most, it is difficult to listen to current events on the news. Judy's house, which she has rented out for many years, is in Be'er Sheva. She is involved in various English speaking groups, mostly with British expats. Her daughter's own child lived closer to Gaza in Kisufim and while traumatized by the invasion, is safe now near the Dead Sea. At 17, she will soon qualify for her IDF service. Perdonally, like many of us facing health problems, she agrees that aging is not for the weak. We did discuss care oprions available there. If anyone wishes to catch up by phone, contact her brother, Dave, on Facebook Messenger to set up a time. He is a "good guy," having arranged earlier for her to turn on her phone so I could call free (50 min.) on WhatsApp.


10/16/23 07:39 AM #6555    

 

Laura Reid (Pease)

Ira, thanks so much for the update on Judy.  I, like so many of our classmates, have been very worried about her.  I pray for Israel and for this terror to be over soon.


10/16/23 10:54 AM #6556    

 

Ann Shepard (Rueve)

Thanks Ira. It's heartwarming to know that Judy has such good friends in you, Paul, and Jerry. I'm glad to know that she is near family and safe. 
What a great tip to use Facebook Messenger. I use it frequently to make free voice and video calls to my overseas relatives.  
 


10/16/23 02:07 PM #6557    

 

Sandy Steele (Bauman)

Thank you so much, Ira, for the update! So grateful that Judy is safe and near family. Praying that peace will come quickly. 
my children call us on What's App frequently and we share pictures, etc. too. It's a great App.


10/16/23 03:21 PM #6558    

 

Evan Burkholder

Thanks, Ira. I remember Judy's post from a few years back, describing daily activities, always knowing where the closest air raid shelter is located. I pray for Judy and her family and for peace which will only come with the elimination of Hamas.


10/22/23 11:28 AM #6559    

 

Doug Gordon

Thanks for your post, Ira. It's sort of a two-for-one relief, as Dave is a friend of my younger brother (WHHS '67) and I can let him know this week that Dave appears to be well and safe also.


11/01/23 08:49 AM #6560    

 

Philip Spiess

SARATOGA STORY:

A Saga of Springs, Spas, Sport, Spuds, Spirits -- and Con-Spiracy!

[in Three Parts]

[Part I, "Springs & Spas," is at Post #6510 (8-31-2023); Part II, "Spuds and Spirits," is at Post #6512 (9-7-2023)]

PART III:  Conspiracy!:

The Three-Pronged Attack:  The Saratoga campaign of the British army during the American Revolutionary War began with British General “Gentleman Johnny” Burgoyne moving an invasion army of 7,200-8,000 men southward from Canada through the Champlain Valley as part of the famed “three-pronged attack.”  This attack involved Burgoyne’s forces coming down from the north, a similar British force coming up the Hudson River from the south at New York City, and a third British force coming from the west at Lake Ontario eastward along the Mohawk River – hence the “three prongs” – all of them meeting to take Albany, New York.  But the southern and western forces never arrived, and Burgoyne found himself surrounded by American forces in upstate New York fifteen miles from his goal.  Trapped by much larger American forces, and with no relief in sight, Burgoyne retreated to Saratoga (now Schuylerville, southeast of Saratoga Springs), and fought two battles there (September 19 and October 7, 1777), winning the first despite being outnumbered, but losing the second when the Americans returned with a much larger force.  The battle on September 19 began when Burgoyne attempted to flank the entrenched American position, a defensive works ordered by commander General Horatio Gates, but Major General Benedict Arnold, Washington’s most aggressive field commander, anticipated the maneuver and balked Burgoyne’s move by placing significant forces in his way.  Burgoyne did gain some measure of control over the situation, but at the cost of significant casualties.  Skirmishing continued over the next several days, as Burgoyne expected that reinforcements would soon arrive [see above].  Meanwhile, American militia forces continued to arrive in the area, but there were disputes within the American army:  both General Gates and General Arnold had prickly dispositions, and Arnold managed to turn Gates against him.  As a result, General Horatio Gates stripped Benedict Arnold of his command.

Hero of the Revolution?  A Victory – but also an Imagined Slight:  The battle on October 7 began with artillery fire and a bayonet charge from the British forces, but the Americans cut them down.  Burgoyne lost nearly 400 men, as well as six of the ten field pieces he had, and most of the grenadiers’ command was captured.  At this point, General Benedict Arnold, “betraying great agitation and wrath” (he may have been drinking), entered the action.  He led an attack on a British redoubt, then led an attack on a second redoubt, recklessly riding between the lines and emerging somehow unhurt.  He led the charge through the gap between the redoubts and, despite a furious battle, took one of them.  However, Arnold’s horse was hit in a final volley, and his left leg was broken by both the shot and the falling horse; thus he was carried back to headquarters in a litter.  But his leg was crudely set (he wouldn’t allow it to be amputated), leaving it two inches shorter than his right leg.  As a result, he limped the rest of his life, something that later gave him away, that is, identified him, as the man involved in treason.

Burgoyne had lost 1,000 men in the two battles, including some of his most effective officers, his forward line was breached, his attempts to capture the American position had failed, and he was now outnumbered by about 3 to 1.  On October 17, with his army surrounded, Burgoyne surrendered his army to the American commander, General Horatio Gates; his troops were kept in captivity until the end of the war.  And thus Burgoyne’s failed campaign marked the major turning point of the Revolutionary War.  Not only did the British acknowledge that “the courage and obstinacy with which the Americans fought were the astonishment of everyone,” but the American success brought in the foreign assistance (notably French) which contributed to the ultimate American victory.  In response to Burgoyne’s surrender, Congress declared December 18, 1777, as a national day “for solemn Thanksgiving and praise”; it was our nation’s first official observance of a holiday under that name.

As a result of his heroic efforts in the battle of Saratoga, Benedict Arnold had his seniority restored (he had lost it after being passed over for promotion earlier in 1777), but his wounded leg kept him in bed for five months.  Meanwhile, General Horatio Gates received a great deal of credit for the Saratoga victory, as being the commanding general of the greatest American victory in the war to date.  This led to two burgeoning conspiracy plots:  Gates may have conspired with others to replace George Washington as commander-in-chief (it didn’t work) – and Benedict Arnold, soured by the lack of immediate recognition by Washington of his abilities by an advance in rank, while serving as military governor of Philadelphia entered into treasonable correspondence with the British [see below].  However, eventually he received command of the fort at West Point on the Hudson River and, as we shall see, plotted to hand it over to the British. 

The Great Chain:  So now Benedict Arnold was commander of the fort and defenses at West Point, New York (future site of the U. S. Military Academy).  Control of the Hudson River was strategically important to both the Americans and the British during the Revolutionary War because it allowed for watercraft, the major transportation of the day, to penetrate (with their cannons and troops) into the then northern heartland of the American colonies, separating New England from Pennsylvania and New Jersey and dividing in half the colony of New York, to say nothing of controlling the major port of New York City.  (In October, 1777, the British, having captured Forts Montgomery and Clinton, had sailed upriver as far as Kingston, then the capital of New York, and burned its several hundred buildings to the ground.)  At West Point the river narrowed and curved sharply and thus winds, tides, and currents shifted there, so that ships had to slow up and tack in order to navigate the passage, making them easy targets for guns stationed on the banks (nevertheless, American ships of the period, the nascent American navy, were neither of the size nor power of the British ships, but therefore were more maneuverable craft [remember the Spanish Armada?]).  Cannons were placed in forts and artillery batteries on both sides of the river to attack ships as they slowed to maneuver the sharp curve.

In the spring of 1778, on the advice of Governor George Clinton of New York, a heavy chain supported by huge log rafts (in other words, a boom) was stretched across the Hudson River from West Point to Constitution Island to block British ships from traveling up the river.  A second log boom, resembling a ladder in construction, was placed across the river about 100 yards downstream to absorb the impact of any ship attempting to breach the chain.

The chain had been constructed at the Sterling Iron Works in Warwick; when completed, the 600-yard chain contained iron links two feet in length, weighing between 140 and 180 pounds; in total (including swivels, clevises, and anchors), the chain weighed 65 tons.  Carted to New Windsor, all was put together and floated down the Hudson to West Point in late April, being installed on April 30, 1778, by Captain Thomas Machin, an artillery officer and engineer.  Each of the ends was anchored by log cribs filled with rocks, one at a small cove on the Hudson’s west bank and the other at Constitution Island.  The West Point side was protected by the Chain Battery (of which something remains at West Point’s “Flirtation Walk”) and the Constitution Island side was protected by the Marine Battery.  A system of pulleys, ropes, and anchors helped adjust the chain’s tension to overcome the river currents and changing tides.  (Until 1783, the chain was removed in winter and reinstalled in spring in order to avoid destruction by ice, which, by itself, would prevent ships from coming upriver in winter.)

In any case, the British navy never attempted to breach the chain (although Benedict Arnold had suggested to them that “a well-loaded ship could break the chain”).  After the war, parts of the Great Chain were saved for posterity, others being melted down.  Thirteen links are displayed at Trophy Point at West Point, one each for the thirteen colonies (by then states).  A section of the boom is displayed at Washington’s Headquarters at Newburgh, New York.  But beware!  In the 1890s and later, John C. Abbey and, later, munitions dealer Francis Bannerman of Pollopel’s Island Arsenal in the Hudson River (an impressively romantic castle now in ruins – it blew up when the munitions stored there caught on fire) sold counterfeit “Great Chain chain links” to collectors and museums.  Most of those out there as monuments are these latter fakes. 

Treason!:  Needless to say, Benedict Arnold was a bad actor:  although in his army career he had distinguished himself by acts of intelligence and bravery, he repeatedly claimed that he was being passed over for promotion by the Continental Congress (this might very well have been true, given his temperament), and that other officers were being given credit for some of his accomplishments (General Gates and the Battle of Saratoga are an example).  On the other hand, a number of his fellow officers and political acquaintances accused him of corruption and other nefarious activities, but formal inquiries usually acquitted him (Washington favored him).  However, when Congress investigated his finances, it determined that he was indebted to Congress and that he had borrowed money heavily to maintain a lavish lifestyle.

After Saratoga, and after he had recovered somewhat from his leg wound, Arnold returned to the Continental Army at Valley Forge; there he (along with many others) took the first recorded Oath of Allegianceswearing loyalty to the United States.  When the British withdrew from Philadelphia in June of 1778, Washington appointed Benedict Arnold the military commander of the city.  This was a definite and serious misstep by Washington:  it was a rich and politically divided city, and Arnold many times had shown his tendency to become embroiled in disputes, as well as showing a general lack of political sense.  The position needed tact, patience, and fairness in this city recently marked by months of enemy occupation – and Arnold had none of these.

In point of fact, Arnold lived extravagantly in Philadelphia and engaged in a variety of business activities by which he hoped to capitalize financially on war-related supply movements.  Charges were brought against him in public; however, as a prominent figure on the social scene, Arnold avoided scandal – then.  But during the summer of 1778, he met Peggy Shippen, the 18-year-old daughter of a Philadelphia judge, a Loyalist sympathizer (very Tory) who had done business with the British while they occupied the city.  During that time Peggy had been courted by one British Major John Andre; nevertheless, she married Benedict Arnold on April 8, 1779, though she and her circle of friends managed to stay in contact (often through paramours) across battle lines, even though the military banned communications with the enemy.  And there lay trouble.

Having lost his pre-war business in Connecticut, Arnold was very bitter.  Convicted of minor charges of using his authority to make a profit, General Washington gave him a light reprimand, but it heightened Arnold’s sense of betrayal by the one senior officer in the Continental Army who genuinely liked Arnold and respected his military abilities.  Therefore, Arnold privately opened negotiations with the British military.

And essential to what eventually transpired, Benedict Arnold’s wife, Peggy Shippen, had a significant role in the treason plot.  She came from a loyalist family in Philadelphia, had many ties to the British, was a conduit for information to them, and she exerted a powerful influence over her husband.  As a result, in May, 1779, Arnold proposed his services to the British General Sir Henry Clinton through a Philadelphia merchant, Joseph Stansbury, who was introduced by William Franklin (the last colonial governor of New Jersey and the son of Benjamin Franklin), to Major John Andre, who was now in charge of the British spy network.  Thus began a secret correspondence between Benedict Arnold and Major Andre (often using Peggy Shippen as intermediary), which led to Benedict Arnold’s change of sides.  [For a quick resume of this story, see the 1955 movie The Scarlet Coat, starring Cornel Wilde and Michael Wilding.]

Shortly after Benedict Arnold’s attaining the command of West Point (August 3, 1780), he received a letter through Major Andre, wherein the British General Clinton offered Arnold 20,000 pounds for his treason.  Arnold’s letters continued to reveal Washington’s movements and to provide information about the French reinforcements.  Further, Arnold’s command at West Point gave him control over the entire Hudson River; he therefore began systematically weakening West Point’s defenses, never ordering needed repairs on the “Great Chain” [see above]; he also drained West Point’s military supplies, selling them on the “black market” for personal gain.

Meanwhile, on September 20, 1780, Major Andre headed up the Hudson River on the British sloop-of-war Vulture.  Its presence was discovered the following morning by two American privates, John Peterson and Moses Sherwood, who promptly fired on it with rifle and musket.  Then they headed to Fort Lafayette to alert their commander, Colonel James Livingston, and to request cannon and ammunition.  While they were gone, a small boat furnished by Arnold was steered to the Vulture by Joshua Hett Smith (neither he nor his oarsmen suspected treason); it picked up Major Andre and landed him on shore.  After the Americans had left the scene, Benedict Arnold and Major John Andre finally met, Arnold having brought an extra horse for Andre’s use.  The two men conferred in the woods below Stony Point on the west bank of the Hudson [now part of Hook Mountain State Park], and then they retired to Joshua Hett Smith’s house [now called the Treason House] at West Haverstraw, New York.

However, the two American privates, Peterson and Sherwood, who had gone for military assistance, returned to the river on the morning of September 22 and launched a two-hour cannonade on the Vulture, hitting it many times and forcing it to retreat back down the river.  This action left British Major Andre stranded on shore in American-held territory.

At the Joshua Hett Smith house, Benedict Arnold had supplied Major Andre with civilian clothes and a passport which allowed him to travel under the alias of John Anderson.  Andre also had six papers written by Arnold hidden in his stocking that showed the British how to take the fort at West Point.  On the morning of September 23, Andre, riding back to the British and safety in New York City, was stopped outside Tarrytown by three armed American militiamen (John Paulding, Isaac Van Wart, and David Williams).  Andre, thinking they were Tories because one was wearing a Hessian soldier’s coat, told them he was a British officer who must not be detained, and they, to his surprise, told him they were Continentals and that he was their prisoner.  Andre then said he was really an American officer and showed them his passport, but their suspicions had been aroused.  They searched him and found Benedict Arnold’s papers in his stocking.  Of the three American soldiers, only Paulding could read, but, realizing that Andre was a spy, he took him to Continental Army headquarters [at today’s Armonk, New York]; Andre finally admitted who he was.

General George Washington was duly informed of the situation by Lieutenant Colonel John Jameson, who sent the papers found on Andre to Washington, but Jameson, unwilling to believe that Arnold, his commanding general, could be guilty of treason, also sent a note about the situation to Arnold.  Arnold received the note at breakfast with his officers, made an excuse to absent himself, and was not seen again, having been given time to escape to the British.  When Washington arrived at West Point an hour later, he found its fortifications neglected, and eventually learning of Arnold’s treason, he sent men to arrest Arnold, but Benedict Arnold was gone.  Major Andre received a military trial by American senior officers, who eventually condemned him to death.  Hoping to be shot by a firing squad (as befitted a gentleman), Andre was nevertheless hanged as a spy, placing the noose around his own neck.

Aftermath:  Benedict Arnold was pursued by an American army that included the Marquis de Lafayette, who was under orders to hang Arnold summarily if he was captured.  The British gave the turncoat Arnold a brigadier general’s commission, and in December he led a British force into Virginia, capturing Richmond by surprise and destroying supplies, foundries, and mills throughout Virginia until Lord Cornwallis took over the army.  When Arnold learned of the British surrender at Yorktown, his request to go to England was granted, and he and his family sailed in December, 1781.  In London, Arnold’s attempts to gain positions in the government or in the British East India Company failed, he was reduced to non-wartime service pay, and his reputation suffered due to his treason.  In 1801 his health began to decline; he died after four days of delirium on June 14, 1801, at the age of 60.  He was buried at St. Mary’s Church, Battersea, but his remains were later removed to an unmarked mass grave during church renovations a century later.

On the other hand, Major Andre’s mother and three sisters were rewarded a pension by the British, his brother William Andre was made a baronet in his honor, and in 1821, at the behest of the Duke of York (an uncle of the future Queen Victoria), Major Andre’s remains, originally buried under the gallows in America, were removed to England and, under a marble monument depicting Britannia mourning alongside the British lion, were reburied – in Westminster Abbey!

Monument to a Leg:  And so we come to the interesting conclusion of this dubious saga, of which I present a photograph (taken by me) below.  Benedict Arnold [were Eggs Benedict named for eggs thrown at the traitor’s name, after the event?] has forever been infamously immortalized as the ultimate treasonous American.  Yet he was, admittedly, the hero of the turning point of the Revolutionary War, namely, the Battle of Saratoga [see above], which brought our country into existence.  For the obvious reason, despite all of the various monuments erected on the Saratoga battlefield (as was the custom of the times), none was raised to General Benedict Arnold – initially.  But in 1887, one John Watts de Peyster, a former major general in the New York State Militia during the Civil War, and writer of several military histories about the Battle of Saratoga, decided to erect a monument to honor Benedict Arnold’s contribution to America’s victory.  Now Arnold had been wounded in the foot during the Battle of Quebec, was further injured in the Battle of Ridgefield when his horse was shot out from under him, and suffered his final battle injury at Saratoga, where the leg wound he received in his left leg left him limping for life and ended his career as a fighting soldier.  Thus de Peyster chose to erect the monument at Saratoga to Benedict Arnold’s wounded left leg, never mentioning Arnold by name.  The inscription on the monument reads:  “Erected 1887 by John Watts de Peyster Brev:  Maj: Gen: S.N.Y. 2nd V. Pres’t Saratoga Mon’t Ass’t’n:  In memory of the ‘most brilliant soldier’ of the Continental Army who was desperately wounded on this spot the sally port of Burgoynes Great Western Redoubt 7th October, 1777 winning for his countrymen the decisive battle of the American Revolution and for himself the rank of Major General.”  As such, it is often called “the Boot Monument.”  (An apocryphal story, often retold, says that when Benedict Arnold was leading British forces against his former countrymen in Virginia, he asked an American prisoner what the Americans would do with him if they captured him.  The answer was “They will cut off the leg which was wounded when you were fighting so gloriously for the cause of liberty, and bury it with the honors of war, and hang the rest of your body on a gibbet.”).  And thereby hangs – and ends – this tale.

The Saratoga Battlefield on a grim morning.

Remains of the Great Hudson River Chain as a memorial at West Point.

Monument to a Leg:  The sole commemoration of Benedict Arnold's heroism at Saratoga.


11/13/23 09:04 PM #6561    

 

Bruce Fette

Phil,

Masterfully told story of the War of Independence, as well as excellent details of Benedict Arnold. 

 Thank You, Bruce

 


11/14/23 08:24 PM #6562    

 

Ira Goldberg

WHHS did It! Our Alma Mater has been recognized as a National Blue Ribbon School! Thanks to everyone for contributing to the Performing Arts Find and other gifts.These are an important element of the resources needed to provide one of the best educations in the State. A nomination by the Ohio Board of Education was followed by extensive documentation in order to "make the case." Once awarded this designation, we will retain it permanently. Only 49 high schools in the entire country received this honor in 2023. The only other thing I'd like to say is, "You take the cake," class of '64!

 


11/14/23 10:15 PM #6563    

 

Jeff Daum

That is outstanding!  Thanks for posting Ira.


11/15/23 04:23 PM #6564    

 

Ann Shepard (Rueve)


11/16/23 03:02 PM #6565    

 

Gene Stern

I am so proud of our classmates for the support thay have shown our Performimg Arts Fund and how this was part of the reason for WHHS receiving this amazing award.

 


11/17/23 08:07 AM #6566    

 

Sandy Steele (Bauman)

Such excting news! I volunteer with Mr. Brokamp's daughter and we were so happy to celebrate this achievement together at an activity this week. Thanks to everyone who made this happen!


11/19/23 08:12 PM #6567    

 

Gail Weintraub (Stern)

Our Class of 1965 Performing Arts Fund has again impacted our alma mater. We should be proud of our PAF contributions made over the years.

More impressive news from the WHHS Theatre Department!

"I am incredibly happy to announce that Walnut Hills has been announced as one of the first schools in the nation to be awarded the rights to the revised version of the musical 'The Unsinkable Molly Brown', and with it a $10,000 grant to produce the show as past of our 24-25 theatre season.

"We were one of 16 schools selected from across the country to be one of the first theatre programs to tell the amazingly true rags-to-riches story of a woman who survived the sinking of the Titanic."

Mike Sherman '00 

Teacher/Theatre Department Producing Artistic Director

Sursum Ad Summum


11/21/23 07:04 PM #6568    

 

Paul Simons

I have been slowly reading through the entry on the Revolutionary War, Benedict Arnold, the battles and fortifications. First great job Phil, what a work of history and second how did they do it all with no motors of any kind? A chain weighing 65 tons constructed and stretched across a river. Canons also weighing tons transported across hundreds of miles of rough terrain and deployed. Meanwhile today if somehow the remote becomes lost for a few minutes we are in deep trouble. How did they live such physically demanding lives and also keep their ideas whether useful today or not flowing? 


11/21/23 11:32 PM #6569    

 

Philip Spiess

Paul:  Our forebears, the Founding Fathers and Mothers, started drinking spiritous beverages in the morning and continued to do so throughout the day -- hard cider, applejack, rum, Madeira wine, punch, whiskey, brandy, beer (which was served to children) -- no one touched the water, which was only fit for farm animals, or, nearer the coast, was salty.  So it wasn't just their ideas which were flowing (and which got them into trouble with the British).  Either said drinking stiffened their resolve for hard work -- or else they were so spiffled that they didn't realize they were working hard.  (Oh, and you didn't mention the thick mud through which they were dragging those cannons.)  Speaking of which, how did the colonials make iron cannon in those days -- at Saugus, Batsto, Allaire, Hopewell, Cornwall Furnace, and so on -- that didn't explode on them?


11/22/23 10:56 PM #6570    

 

Bruce Fette

Phil and Paul,

Yes the cannons were large and heavy. But every time I think about the revolutionary war, and the war of 1812, and the civil war, there were very few roads, and equally very few bridges.  If you think about no roads, just think about pulling cannons up every hill, letting them back kdown the other side of every hill, and bushwacking your way through nearly every forest. And the whole army except George and two others had to walk to get almost everywhere. Yes, as Phil said, they tried to make use of rivers, when the river was going where they needed to go, but most of the surprises were where our forces were hidden in the forests.

 

 

 

 


11/23/23 12:14 AM #6571    

 

Philip Spiess

Bruce:  Is that why you've gone in for rockets instead?  (And don't give me that red glare!)


11/27/23 09:41 PM #6572    

 

Ann Shepard (Rueve)

It is with great sadness that I have learned that our classmate, Carolyn Louise Grant Burress passed away yesterday, November 26, 2023, in Dayton Ohio.  This afternoon, I received a call from our fellow classmate, Elaine Patton Walker, who gave me the news.  

Carolyn had just celebrated her 77th birthday last month on October 23.  

Besides being classmates, Carolyn and I worked together in the early 1970s as caseworkers at the welfare department.  She, I, and another young social worker did everything together until she moved to Dayton after meeting her husband, Rodney, who was in the Air Force.  Carolyn and I hadn't been in touch often, but I lived directly across the street from her sister for many years, and was kept updated.

I learned that Carolyn has one child, a daughter, Stephanie who lives in Atlanta, and who  just gave birth to Carolyn's first grandchild shortly before Carolyn's passing. 

Details will follow.

May her memory always be a blessing.

 

 


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