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12/23/25 06:17 PM #6843    

 

Philip Spiess

As far as I know, that large Cincinnati Masonic Temple is still there on east Fifth Street.  My grandfather's lodge used to hold its family Christmas party there, and my grandparents would take my sister Barbara and me (they gave out the most wonderful boxes of Christmas candies -- including Opera Cremes!).  The party was held in a ballroom downstairs (maybe where you danced?) which had a small stage, such as might have been used for a dance band.  The Masonic Temple also held -- or was attached to -- the Taft Theatre, resulting in two giant auditoriums next to each other (the second being the Scottish Rite Auditorium in the Masonic Temple).  I think that's all still there.

You and your wife have a great holiday season, Bruce!


12/23/25 11:08 PM #6844    

 

Jeff Daum

Phil, we are so fortunate to have you as our resident historian.  Your breath and depth of information along with easy to read prose always amazes.

Thanks for continuing to share.

Cheers and happy holidays!

Jeff


12/24/25 05:50 AM #6845    

 

Paul Simons

Thanks for this memory-triggering information Phil. I was lucky enough to work a the downtown Mabley and Carew one Christmas season selling stuff like wallets, ties and Brut cologne if I remember right and the thrill of entering the warm, bright, holiday festive store and also the thrill of that Cincinnati slush that filled the sidewalks, streets and gutters defined this season for me. It was winter, it was Christmas, the way they were meant to be. These days here in Philadelphia we will get snow at times but then a day or two later it's back up to 60° for a day or two. Nothing like real dark dreary Cincinnati winter where the pristine snow lasted a few days and then turned to slush which  lasted all week and then it would snow again.
 

 Also being a Cincinnati food nut I have to add the names of a few downtown restaurants - La Maisonette on Fountain Square, Empress Chili, the Temple restaurant across the street from Shillito's, home of the best cheeseburger ever created, and Jack and Klu's steakhouse where for one night a year - New Year's Eve - a high school nobody - me - could take a date and feel like a big shot because that's how they treated you. Why? Angling for a good tip? Or was that the ethos of the day there? I don't know but the food and service were fabulous.
 

There's a lot more about downtown Cincinnati that Phil could add and probably already has in previous entries but I have to add the main public library covered with beautiful mostly blue mosaic work and in the blocks up Vine Street from it a few pawn shops where you could get a good guitar for a couple of hundred bucks. It would be obscene to start on what collectors pay for those things today.
 

Anyway Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukah, Joyful Kwanzaa to all who celebrate or don't and Happy New Year. 

 


 

 


12/25/25 01:20 AM #6846    

 

Philip Spiess

A Shopping Addendum to

DOWNTOWN DEPARTMENT STORES AT CHRISTMAS

I thought that I had covered what I wanted to cover in my “Department Stores” essay above, but I was focusing on the stores themselves, and I didn’t really mention the actual shopping!  Now, I’m not intending to guess what all of you might have shopped for, much less bore you to tears by running through what sorts of things I used to shop for, but I am going to pass along some thoughts I have had on what has gradually become missing from the shopping we did in our younger days.

When you entered most stores on the ground level, the first thing that hit you (right in the nose, to be exact) was the ladies’ perfume department, overly fragrant with its offerings.  As a young adult male with a girlfriend, I once stopped at one of these counters to investigate their wares for a possible purchase.  Imagine my surprise when the young lady behind the counter sprayed some scent on the back of my hand so I could check out its aroma.  The aroma stayed with me the rest of the day, despite my washing my hands with soap, with the result that the young lady I was dating that night semi-accused me of seeing some other young woman!  (Whatever the case, whatever the sales pitch, one usual ended up buying – if buying at all – the original Kolnischwasser or “Chanel No. 5.”)

If you penetrated further into the interior of the store, most likely you next encountered the sort of men’s goods counter that Paul Simons describes that he worked at in his comments on my original essay:  wallets, ties, and Brut cologne (also “Old Spice” and “English Leather”).  Stylish and/or fold-up umbrellas and men’s gloves were apt to be at this counter also, as well as a once-significant item, now pretty much passe, the elegant gold or silver men’s cigarette lighter.  At a different, but strictly men’s, counter would be a great array of hats (and, no, we’re not talking baseball caps!).  This brings to mind a story that went around downtown for years:  on the west side of Race Street, south of Shillito’s, at the northwest corner of either Sixth or Seventh Street, was an elegant men’s clothing store (I forget its name).  Just inside the front door, parallel to Race Street, was a glass counter along the top of which ran a whole line of gentlemen’s hats.  One day in the 1940s, so the story ran, a distinguished elderly gent, complete with furled umbrella and bristling white moustache, walked into the store and waited at this counter for a salesclerk.  Two young clerks were actually behind the counter chatting with one another and laughing, and the elderly gentleman waited some time to catch their attention.  Finally, in exasperation, he tapped loudly on the floor with his umbrella. A clerk turned and superciliously asked him, in a condescending tone, “May I help you?”  “Yes!” the gentleman responded acerbically, and, laying his umbrella down across the counter, walked smartly to the front entrance, sweeping all of the hats before him onto the floor.  He then turned to the clerk, and saying, most decisively, “You may pick all of those up for me!” he walked briskly out of the store.

I won’t attempt a further particular pathway through the store, as most stores differed beyond their front entrances, but I do want to mention a few specialized counters that maybe made it into the store branches in the suburban malls, but which disappeared over time.  One was the candy counter, exclusively for purchasing candy, no other product (well, maybe some cookies).  This counter was as fragrant as the ladies’ perfume department, but, to my youthful tastes, far more appreciated.  The counter sold both boxed candies and those in loose bulk.  Whitman’s, Russell Stover, and Dolly Varden candies were available in bulk, as were simpler fare, such as hard candies, chocolate-covered peanuts, raisins, and other fruits (such as cherries and pineapple), mints, fancy lollipops, butterscotch discs, cinnamon balls, root beer barrels, and black licorice (made locally by the John Mueller Licorice Company over on Freeman Avenue; you could smell the licorice being made a block away).  If I was shopping with my grandmother, she would let me pick out a standard box-size worth of one or two types of candies; my choice was invariably Russell Stover’s chocolate-covered “honey-combs” (a hardened taffy-like candy) and chocolate-covered orange peel.  One day, however (by this time I was in college), shopping in Shillito’s, I got a bag of cinnamon balls.  Coming out of Shillito’s garage, I had barely started to suck on one when my grandmother hit the brakes, and the big ball went down and lodged in my throat.  I was not about to swallow that big a piece of candy – I could not – but I was choking and turning red.  I did the only thing I could think of:  I stood on my head upside down in the car and bounced myself up and down; luckily, this shook loose the candy ball and I righted myself again, still alive.

A similar counter in many stores was the nuts counter (no, not the crazy counter; those might be found in any bargain sales basement); it was the counter that sold nuts in bulk, sometimes hot (as in the risque song), and its fragrance, like the candy counter, told you where it was and what it was selling.  You could get, in bulk and served up in a bag, shelled and unshelled plain or salted peanuts, cashews, almonds, macadamia nuts, unshelled walnuts and pecans, shelled Brazil nuts and filberts – you name it.  Such a counter even sold my favorite – Jordan Almonds, almonds covered with a hard, pastel-colored candy coating (so hard that I once broke a tooth eating one).

I could go on:  there was the housewares department, where one could look at various new kitchen gadgets (some that had been featured at the “Home Shows” at the Cincinnati Zoo); there was the draperies department, where, as young kids my sister and I would play a sort of hide and seek among the hanging drapery fabrics in front of free-standing window frames.  There was Pogue’s shoe department, where my sister and I got measured for our elementary school shoes by Mrs. Dalrymple, using a then-standard fluoroscope, an X-ray machine in which we loved to look at our feet in a green glow, but which was later banned out of a fear of too much radiation exposure.  And in Shillito’s and Pogue’s were the book departments (later discontinued) that, as an older youth, took up much of my shopping time (this was before Don Dahmann and I had discovered “Acres of Books” over on Main Street).  In Pogue’s, I purchased books of the “Hardy Boys” series and the “Tom Swift, Jr.” scientific series (Pogue's also carried the complete line of books in the Wizard of Oz series).  At Shillito’s, I found a bargain and/or discontinued books section over in the mezzanine annex by the back door that let out toward Shillito’s garage; I managed to get such things as Great Moments in News Photography (1960; originally $4.95, marked down to 77 cents) there.

Well, I’ll stop here and let any of you with memories you’d like to share continue.  But I’ll end with two department store horror stories from the early 1950s.  (1) A lady, determined to commit suicide, went to the Observation Deck on the top of Carew Tower, climbed the surrounding wall, and leaped off – to fall only twelve feet, because Carew Tower, like most skyscrapers, has setbacks to let light into downtown streets, and she lighted on one which stuck out at least five feet from the deck above.  She broke her leg and lay moaning there in the well of the setback for some time before someone found her and she was hauled up.  (2) As another lady was exiting Pogue’s elevator at the 2nd floor, the brake failed and the elevator shot upward, decapitating the lady, whose head rolled into the Children’s Shoe Department [see mention thereof above].  That must have given the kiddies something to talk about at their school’s “Show & Tell”!   Ba-da-da!  That’s all, folks!       


12/25/25 07:07 AM #6847    

 

Paul Simons

Kudos to Phil - the latest episode nails more of the department store saga and also clarifies the meaning of the phrase "Heads will roll,", in this and perhaps future iterations, future enactments. The hat store might be Adam Hats, it fits the description and it had an aura of proximity to the ne'er do wells of Cincinnati society, maybe pimps or drug pushers or musicians - who else would wear semi-outrageous hats, tight-fitting jackets and most incriminating, boots. Not rubber galoshes to protect from the aforementioned Cincinnati winter slush but soft leather that these creatures of the night favored as they alighted from their gigantic Lincoln Continentals and made their entrance into - well - Tad's Steaks where they had to stand in line like everybody else and watch their steak get grilled.

But there was another men's clothing place, or maybe you could say chain - Max's Gentry Shops, for more solid citizens. They had every pin-stripe shirt, button-down collar or not, with blue or black or red pin stripes, that a kid who wanted to look "collegiate" could want, and suits etc etc for those who were actually employed in a white or pin-striped collar job.


12/25/25 11:04 AM #6848    

 

Philip Spiess

It was not Adams Hats, Paul; that was, I believe, across Race Street or Vine Street; it was on a southeast corner.  This was a full men's furnishings shop (but not Burkhardt's), not just hats, nor was it Max Gentry Shops, which were largely in the suburban malls.  (I don't recall Max Gentry having a store downtown.)


12/25/25 05:50 PM #6849    

 

Paul Simons

Right Phil - Max's Gentry for me was in the Swifton shopping center. Hats - was it Batsaks or Batsakis, something like that?


12/25/25 06:22 PM #6850    

 

Philip Spiess

At the moment, I have no idea, but I'm pretty sure it was a more English name.


12/25/25 09:16 PM #6851    

 

Bruce Fette

Well Phil et al.

I have another very profound memory. For those of us that lived in the grater College Hill area, and the end of the day, we would take a yellow (Kissle) bus to Knowlton's corner. We would disembark the yellow bus and wait (and wait) for the Cincinnari #24 bus to College Hill.In the fridgid winter, There was a burger shop that sold the most delicious burgers anywhere. So most of us kids would go in and buy a burger to stay warm while waiting. I know itis not there anymore. But the memory of those great burgers remains.

 


12/26/25 06:05 AM #6852    

 

Paul Simons

Bruce you just named two important elements of concern to every serious current or former resident of Cincinnati - Knowlton's Corner and hamburgers. I too would take a bus, maybe two requiring a transfer, to get to Knowlton's Corner became that's where Lapirow Brothers electronic surplus store was. If you needed resistors, capacitors, switches, a turret board etc to try to build the project in the latest issue of "Popular Electronics" they had it. They also had surplus WW2 bombsights but who needed them? Being the good guys at the time we had just won WW2. No need for bombsights, although things do change. They also had the communications equipment of the era - big, cumbersome, requiring heavy batteries because they used tubes - transistors and their progeny integrated circuits hadn't been invented yet. Lapirow Brothers is gone, and it has taken Ebay, Digi-key in Thief River Falls, MN, and the entire country of China to replace it.
 

Now hamburgers - anyone reading this is probably sick of me bloviating about the wonders of White Castle but the truth is that like you said there were far better burgers. All over town there were joints with a counter, a grill, an ex-con cook and an ex-hooker waitress who despite past indiscretions could put a quarter pound of gustatory joy on the counter in front of me, with a Coke.

 

I will try to attach a photo that summarizes the current trend of trying to replace quality with quantity. It doesn't work. In Hamburgers, in architecture, in all things, you can't replace quality with quantity. This is the Triple Cheese Bacon Quadruple Bypass Burger available in the 20205 zip code area and possibly in your town soon. But we are all better off with a plain, honest hamburger. Okay, a cheeseburger as well but be careful with the extras.



 


12/26/25 08:03 AM #6853    

 

Philip Spiess

How in the hell do you get that monster in your mouth?

Or is that just the opposite of a "Nothingburger"?


12/26/25 09:12 AM #6854    

 

Paul Simons

Phil - about all that I can say about the recent, current context of the term "nothingburger" goes back a few years to - well, if Frisch's has a thing called a "Big Boy," and there are also sandwiches with names like a "Reuben" and a "Dagwood" and a "Sloppy Joe" then one could call also call a nothingburger a "Reince." It should be noted that just calling something a nothingburger doesn't make it so. There might be something there after all. Like calling something a "hoax" doesn't change the reality of the item. In this as in all things individual research is the only way to determine veracity.
 

Personally every time I visit the Cincinnati area I go to the closest Waffle House and conduct exhaustive sociological research to determine how deeply the nothingburger paradigm has penetrated the highest echelons of our citizenry. Certainly we all have an absolute right to our preferences and to defuse any controversy on this topic I am including a photo of a nothingburger. If that's anyone's choice, by all means have at it.


12/26/25 10:40 AM #6855    

 

Philip Spiess

After all, how waffle could it be?


12/26/25 12:10 PM #6856    

 

Lee Max

The Max's Gentry store (named after it's founder, Max Elkis) also sponsored our Knothole baseball team. The unique aspect of their sponsorship was that we never had to wash our uniforms. The games were played on Saturdays. Every Monday, a van would stop at our house, and pick up our dirty uniforms. Four days later (Friday), the van would return, and deliver our beautifully dry cleaned uniforms  for us to wear the next day. We didn't win every game, but we always had the cleanest uniforms in the league.


12/26/25 12:51 PM #6857    

 

Barbara Kahn (Tepper)

Phil, I don't know the year But Gentry Shops opened a store downtown. It was owned by my Uncle, Bob Elkus. He and his brother Gene owned Switftom and whatever else.

After college my sister worked in the downtown store.  

 


12/26/25 04:03 PM #6858    

 

Laura Reid (Pease)

 
Paul and Phil, here is the hat shop!  Still there!
https://cityseeker.com/cincinnati/936222-batsakes-hat-shop

12/26/25 04:43 PM #6859    

 

Bruce Fette

Paul,

Yes, I also was a devotee of Lapirow Brothers. One day I spent a huge amount of time there till closing, and it was snowing, and Mr. Lapiropw gave me a ride home to Colleg4e Hill. Meanwhile, he had a ham radio in his car and he worked somone on 10 meters copying morse code in his head while driving.

I fully agree that the best burgers are not the largest burgers. While I personally loved White Castles since I was 5, my Collegiate Girfried insisted on Frishes for our after the movie snacks. And of course, Frishes would serve the food right to the car window. Yet another several memories.

 

 

 

 


12/26/25 04:45 PM #6860    

 

Philip Spiess

Barbara and Lee:  thanks for adding some valuable information that fills in some gaps.  As an older teen and as a college student, I used to shop at Max Gentry Shops myself, most often at Swifton Shopping Center, I believe.   But Gentry Shops was just a men's clothing and furnishings store, if I recall, not a department store.

Laura:  You've hit the right store that Paul mentioned, but the one I told the hat story about was not just a hat store (the hats were just on the front counter), it was a full men's clothing store.  And if it was on Sixth Street (as it might have been -- at the norhwest corner of Race or Vine), it would have had to have been on West Sixth Street.


12/26/25 04:45 PM #6861    

 

Bruce Fette

Laura, Your link doesnt work on my PC.

 


12/26/25 08:31 PM #6862    

 

Paul Simons

First to each and every one, in the words of (null set) "Thank you for your attention to this matter." Then Laura even if the solution you found isn't the one being sought I am interested in your search path. Did you remember that store name or did you use a search engine? If so what were the search terms you used?

Just as an aside - speaking of Morse code - at the time the "speed key" was the hot ticket, right - isn't it phenomenal what we have witnessed from dial phones and black and white TVs that you had to constantly adjust to stop the picture from rolling to phones that have screens with 16 million pristine absolutely solid beautiful colors which if we touch a few spots can show us details of one of Jupiter's moons, or the Cincinnati Bengals doing what they do.


12/26/25 11:28 PM #6863    

 

Gail Weintraub (Stern)

Max's Gentry Shop in Swifton Village also had a Women's Department in the back of the store. I bought much of my high school clothing there: Fair Isle sweaters with matching wool A-line skirts and blouses with Peter Pan collars that looked perfect with a Circle Pin!  I believe that Gene Elkus' wife worked in the Women's Department. She once told me, "You can never be too thin or too rich". At the time, I didn't know that this adage was attributed to Wallis Simpson, Duchess of Windsor. I thought she was just passing wisdom onto me. I had never heard such a thing. Ahh, such memories!


12/27/25 07:31 AM #6864    

 

Laura Reid (Pease)

 
 
"Hand Crafted Hattery"
This charming, old-school hat shop has been around since 1907. Specializing in vintage, handcrafted hats, the shop was opened by Pete Batsakes, and is now run by his nephew. From the fanciest of fedoras to the most utilitarian baseball caps, the collection here is impressive to say the least, making it popular with celebrities, politicians and high rollers. Gus, the nonagenarian who presently owns the shop is no longer able to make, clean, block or restore hats as he once did. Nor is there a shoe shine person like the good old days. But like always, there is a handsome variety of hats to choose from.
Paul and Bruce, I know this store because my husband, Chip, has always loved hats and has shopped there for years.  Recently, he was there because our grandson, Reid, is spending spring term of his junior year from Wisconsin, in Ireland; Chip thought he needed a special hat for that trip.  Happy New Year to you all!!  I hope you are planning on attending the reunion in June!!
 
 
 
 
 

12/27/25 01:43 PM #6865    

 

Ann Shepard (Rueve)

Phil, the gentleman's store you described was probably Dunlap's. They had fine men's clothing, analogous to Jenny's for women, on 4th St. My dad was an elevator operator at that store in the 1930s.  That's where he acquired his taste and appreciation for dressing nicely.  Dunlap's only catered to men for decades, but I recall their selling women's suits in the early 60s and my dad insisted that's where I would get my outfit for Easter.
Alms & Doepke Building:
My comment on WCPO's Facebook page when they reported on the sale of the building:

"I have such a history with that building. During the 50s, when I was a little girl, my mother would take me shopping at Alms & Doepke to buy pretty dresses. 
During the 1970s, the building housed various Hamilton County Courts, including Municipal and Juvenile Courts.
My mother was chief probation officer at Juvenile Court and had an office on the third floor.  My dad, a retired Cincinnati PD detective, had a post retirement job as a child support investigator for Hamilton County, and often went to Municipal Court for cases on the first floor.  When I became a Children's Services social worker, I frequently had to testify in both courts. 
In the mid 90s, when I was part of the  Children's Services management team, our department moved from the Krippendorf Building at 7th & Sycamore to the A&D building. Even though the building floor plan had been updated since the 70s, my office was on the third floor, north east corner, exactly where my mother's office had been twenty years prior.
I am glad that the historic building, designed by the same architect who created Music Hall, will be put to good use.
And by the way, I was among a very few who visited the roof periodically. We used a coffee can to keep the door ajar. There are some amazing views."


 


12/27/25 02:06 PM #6866    

 

Ann Shepard (Rueve)

Now I am trying to recall the name of the dress shop that was inside the Carew Tower.  Unlike Gidding-Jenny's purple boxes, the boxes were white with a eggplant color plaid print.  That's where my mom took me to purchase my Daisy Chain (yellow pastel) dress and my white graduation dress. Ann Pollock had the same dress at graduation! laugh


 


12/27/25 02:20 PM #6867    

 

Barbara Kahn (Tepper)

Great Story Lee, I never knew that about the team and uniforms. 

Bob Elkus was married to my mother's sister.  Bob and Gene owned Gentry Shops and another brother, Fred was a doctor.  Later Bobby opened a store downdown and his youngest child, Jim, might still have a men's clothing store downtown in Cincinnait. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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