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12/27/25 02:06 PM #6866    

 

Ann Shepard (Rueve)

Now I am trying to recall the name of the dress shop that was inside the Carew Tower.  Unlike Gidding-Jenny's purple boxes, the boxes were white with a eggplant color plaid print.  That's where my mom took me to purchase my Daisy Chain (yellow pastel) dress and my white graduation dress. Ann Pollock had the same dress at graduation! laugh


 


12/27/25 02:20 PM #6867    

 

Barbara Kahn (Tepper)

Great Story Lee, I never knew that about the team and uniforms. 

Bob Elkus was married to my mother's sister.  Bob and Gene owned Gentry Shops and another brother, Fred was a doctor.  Later Bobby opened a store downdown and his youngest child, Jim, might still have a men's clothing store downtown in Cincinnait. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


12/27/25 07:05 PM #6868    

 

Philip Spiess

Okay, I know it wasn't Dunlap's, which I occasionally shopped at, and which was on Fourth Street, not on the northwest corner of Sixth and Race Streets.  But I think I've finally got it:  I believe it was Bernhard's Men's Shop where the hat story I told above occurred (not Burkhardt's, which, if I recall was on the west side of Fifth Street just above Fourth).


12/27/25 07:50 PM #6869    

 

Paul Simons

Sorry, I just can't stop.
 


12/28/25 12:09 PM #6870    

 

Barbara Kahn (Tepper)

I'll have the brawny lad plain and where's the vegetable soup?


12/28/25 12:48 PM #6871    

 

Philip Spiess

"Vegetable Soup is right in the middle, just above the Golden Brown Idaho French Fried Potatoes.

That will be $0.80 plus tax, please!"

[Alternate answer:  "Vegetable soup was on the menu, but I wiped it off!"]


12/28/25 06:36 PM #6872    

 

Paul Simons

Without objection, soup is on the menu, just above the fried potato listing as stated by the gentleman from Virginia.


At this time we will have to request that this exhibit be stricken because the Secretary has noticed certain inconsistencies. Please use the attached menu as this particular franchisee never sold hamburgers, no hamburger of any type or sort, all references to hamburgers are hereby redacted. Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.

 


12/28/25 06:37 PM #6873    

 

Bruce Fette

Ann,

A beautiful photo of 14 beautiful women.

 


12/28/25 10:21 PM #6874    

 

Gail Weintraub (Stern)

Ann, the dress shop in the Carew Tower building was Henry Harris. My mother shopped  there and also at Gidding-Jenny's. I still have several of her boxes from those stores; the boxes hold old photos and letters. Memories stored in memories.

Bruce, thank you for the compliment about the the Daisy Chain. As a Junior, it was a big deal to be selected!


12/29/25 04:00 PM #6875    

 

Laura Reid (Pease)

I still remember the fragrance of Odalisque in the lobby of Gidding Jenny!


12/29/25 05:05 PM #6876    

 

Philip Spiess

And the double-curved concave front window of Gidding-Jenny (on the north side of Fourth Street) had a curved trough beneath it (outside) that exuded perfume, too.


12/29/25 05:18 PM #6877    

 

Ann Shepard (Rueve)

Henry Harris, of course!  Thanks Gail. I agree, being selected as a Daisy in as juniors was a very special honor
Laura, I remember that Odalisque fragrance window at Jenny's. 
Phil, what year did Jenny's and Giddings merge?  Fourth St. shopping was always very special.  I often frequented the "Attic Sale", where you could really find great bargains.  I realized that the items were actually stored in the attic once, when I was going through a rack of clothing and noticed tiny fingers attached to the shoulder of a dress. I quietly backed up, not creating any attention to myself, buzzed for the elevator and quickly left.  I still wonder what pandemonium occurred when someone finally found the bat that was attached to those tiny fingers. 
That menu from Frisch's brings back memories.  The "filet of sole" was halibut. Whenever my friends and I went to Frisch's on Duck Creek, I'd always order half a fish sandwich and a Coke, and still have fifty cents left over for refilling gas in my mom's car.

 


12/29/25 05:41 PM #6878    

 

Philip Spiess

Ann:  J. M. Gidding & Co. was founded in Duluth, Minnesota in 1904; it opened stores in New York and Cincinnati in 1907 (at 10-12 West Fourth Street).

The Jenny Co. was founded by Milton L. Brown in 1922; it was originally housed in the Union Central Building on the south side of Fourth Street, but it moved across the street (16 West Fourth Street), next door to Gidding's, in 1939.

Genesco, formerly the General Shoe Co., bought Gidding's in 1961, then bought Jenny's in 1962, and merged the two stores that same year (1962).  The store(s) closed in 1995.


12/30/25 10:07 AM #6879    

 

Larry Klein

All this talk about shopping brings back a few memories of my own, but not nearly as "high-end".  Most of my downtown shopping occurred at S. S. Kresge's and Woolworths on 5th street.  Gold Circle on Ridge Rd was my high-end shopping.  Until I moved to my 1 room studio apt last March, I still had a functional transistor radio bought at Gold Circle in high school.

I did stroll through Shillitos on 6th a few times.  I think that's where I found the infamous pair of red socks.


12/30/25 12:42 PM #6880    

 

Raymond Morton, Jr.

Today is my 57th wedding anniversary. Had a party and my oldest son called it a Cane Convention.. It cracked everybody up but also made me reflect on how time has passed. My two oldest children and their spouses are now all Retired.... 6 of the 9 grands have graduated college & 2 are at ECU for Med school. 3 great grands in middle school. Where in the heck did the time go. Seems like yesterday I was in NY having fun going to Ricks plays and theater openings. Life has been like a ride on an express train. luckily it had a lot of scenery along the way. See eveyone at the 80th


12/30/25 07:45 PM #6881    

 

Philip Spiess

Ray, congratulations on your 57th!  You know what they say -- Marriage is a great institution, if you like living in an institution!


12/31/25 03:24 PM #6882    

 

Richard Winter (Winter)

Paul Simons and others here have occasionally referred to White Castle, which I remember fondly from my high school days.   

I had not been near a White Castle restaurant in a long time until recently, while attending a tech conference in Las Vegas, I came across one on the Las Vegas strip.   For those who'd like to know more about White Castle, there is a fascinating Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Castle_(restaurant)

which tells you, among other things, that there were 345 White Castle restaurants in business in the US as of 2024.  

White Castle is credited with inventing fast food in 1921 and one of its founders, Walter Anderson, is credited with inventing the hamburger bun.  The White Castle story as told in Wikipedia makes for an interesting read. 


12/31/25 04:48 PM #6883    

 

Philip Spiess

And a footnote to Dick Winter:  I noted major White Castle trivia, etc., in my Posts #1740 [7-4-2015] and #1746 [7-4-2015], including the invention of "Half-and-Half" and the "horse meat" scare. 


12/31/25 06:57 PM #6884    

 

Barbara Kahn (Tepper)

Happy Anniversary Ray! It's crazy but we'll be married 58 in June. It's such a weird feeling to be so old. 


12/31/25 07:52 PM #6885    

 

Raymond Morton, Jr.

OLD.... Noooooo we are gracefully aged...cool


01/01/26 09:58 AM #6886    

 

Richard Winter (Winter)

Phil - You were ten years ahead of me! Thanks for reminding us of those posts!!


01/01/26 11:11 PM #6887    

 

Ann Shepard (Rueve)

Congratulations to all you newlyweds! 
I remember that first discussion about White Castles and am amazed that this class website has been active for over a decade!  Congratulations to the administrators on a job well done. We've been here longer than Threads, TikTok, Blue Sky and Substack. As a social media aficionado, I find that quite impressive! 


01/02/26 10:09 AM #6888    

 

Paul Simons

Congratulations Ray! And to all who have successfully travelled this road and raised kids who themselves are doing well. That's the most tremendous accomplishment, in my opinion. I never had kids so I might be, more than average, in awe of those who did. It's still in my eyes the greatest accomplishment. Even greater than, say, a gold plated soccer ball.

About the whole White Castle hamburger thing - one of their stores did open up in this area, on Rt 1 about halfway between the exit for Princeton University and the Newark NJ airport, so I went and got 20 of them. They're still good. But framiliarity breeds - not contempt, but satiation. At this point as far as earthly delights goes there's still Graeters - as good as ever maybe because unavailable unless I'm there at their store on Hyde Park Square. There's still Skyline. But increasingly I'm finding that the Chinese or Vietnamese menu with a far stronger emphasis on vegetables is the way to go.

Can I say a word about the social media apps that Ann mentioned? I'm on some of those as well but because of the threats aimed at anyone who might possibly like to continue getting their Social Security or any annuity from the feds they might have earned I go by a somewhat modified name. 

Anyway vegetables - this gal has it all covered - 


01/02/26 11:31 AM #6889    

 

Ann Shepard (Rueve)

Paul, thanks for the explanation of how you acquired a new surname, associated with global German technology.  My grandson just completed an 8 month engineering co-op in Jülich Germany studying aerosols for one of their subsidiaries.  
As far as tracking you down, I'm sure a simple surname change won't suffice..."they" already know who you are. 
With all that talk about White Castles, I know what I'm having for lunch! 


01/02/26 04:31 PM #6890    

 

Philip Spiess

SOME NEW YEAR’S CUSTOMS IN REVIEW

The Time Ball:  Before the Time Ball, there was the cannon.  No, not on Times Square, but in the many harbors of the British Navy around the world, where a cannon was fired in order to synchronize the naval ships’ chronometers.  This synchronization was important for the accurate calculation of Longitude for purposes of navigation.  (John Harrison’s invention of the naval chronometer in 1761 had finally settled the problem of how to determine longitude.)  For many years, one could still witness this official ceremony on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, Canada, where a 9-pound naval cannon from the Crimean War was fired daily as the Noon Day Cannon from 1869 to 1991.  (Not only did it mark official time, but it also signaled to the members of Parliament that they could take lunch.)  Originally, the time signal for this firing came by telegraph from the observatory at McGill University (as accurate time is calculated from the fixed star positions), but later it was signaled from the National Research Council.

But the system itself was crude:  as we all know, light waves travel faster than sound waves, so a method was sought that used sight rather than sound to note a point of time which could be used for calibration of naval timepieces. So, in 1829, an early “time ball” system was adopted in the port of Portsmouth, England; it was the brainchild of British Navy Captain Robert Wauchope.  Proving to be useful, Wauchope recommended it to John Pond, the Astronomer Royal at the Royal Naval Observatory at Greenwich, England, on the Thames just downriver from the London docks; in 1833 Pond created a bright red metal ball that rose on a staff above Flamsteed House at the Royal Observatory at 12:55 p.m., then dropped precisely at 1:00 p.m. Greenwich Mean Time daily (the Prime Meridian passing through Greenwich), signaling the accurate time to all the ships in harbor and along the Thames, so that all of their chronometric clocks could be set simultaneously.  The system (with the dropping ball) is still in operation today.

The Greenwich system was adopted by the U. S. Naval Observatory (1844-1893, now called the “Old Naval Observatory”) at 23rd Street and E Street, Northwest, in Washington, D. C., in 1845 (the Washington meridian, established in 1850, passes through the observatory).  The Washington Time Ball, a rubber ball made by Charles Goodyear, was placed on a staff on top of the Observatory’s dome, down which it descended at 12:00 noon precisely.  In 1869, telegraph lines connected the Observatory time system with the U. S. Navy, most railway lines (particularly in the south), and the Mutual Life Insurance Co. in New York City, which dropped its own noontime time ball, regulated by the Naval Observatory in Washington; this was the first Time Ball in New York.  (The Old Naval Observatory building still exists in Washington on 23rd Street, Northwest, across from the State Department, of which it is now a part, but it no longer has a time ball.  The U. S. Naval Observatory moved north on Massachusetts Avenue, Northwest, in 1894; its grounds include the official residence of the Vice President of the United States, and it has a Time Ball on display, but it no longer drops.)

In 1885, the official Navy Time Ball (by now a metal ball) moved from the (Old) Naval Observatory to the roof of the Navy wing of the State, War and Navy Building (now called the “Old Executive Office Building,” or officially the Eisenhower Executive Office Building), just west of the White House, where it would drop each day at noon (except Sundays), Eastern Standard Time, marking Mean Solar Time in official Washington.  This practice continued until 1936, when the Time Ball system was deemed to be no longer needed.  However, the Washington Time Ball was revived for one last time on December 31,1999, when it was dropped that night at midnight to mark the passage to the millenium year of 2000.

Meanwhile, in December, 1908, the publisher of the The New York Times, Adolph Ochs, decided to drop a Time Ball on New Year’s Eve from the flagstaff of the Times Building (later called the Allied Chemical Building, and god knows what it’s called today!) at the south end of Times Square in New York City, to mark the passage to the new year.  As you know, it’s been happening every year since, the event growing more crowded and garish with each passing decade.

Auld Lang Syne:  This is a Scottish traditional folk song, which, by the way, never mentions the New Year.  The somewhat vague origins of the song (typical of folk songs) trace back to Sir Robert Ayton (died 1638), whose version of the song was first published as a ballad in 1711, and to Allan Ramsay, who wrote a song beginning “For auld acquaintance be forgot” in 1720; thereafter, his song is quite different.  The Scottish phrase, “auld lang syne,” translates into English literally as “old long since”; phrased more commonly, it is “[for] old times’ sake.”

The song, however, really got its impetus when it was taken up by Scotland’s national poet, Robert Burns, who not only wrote poetry himself but also was an avid collector of Scottish folk songs and ballads.  He claimed that he collected “Auld Lang Syne” from an old man, but he adapted it slightly by rewriting it in its five-verse version in 1788, using a somewhat more poetic mode.  It was published in 1796 after Burns’ death by James Johnson in his Scots Musical Museum.  The tune is a traditional Scottish melody, similar to an English melody written by William Shield for his 1782 comic opera Rosina.  Although earlier versions of the words (including Burns’) were set to different music, the words and music as we all know them today were first put together by George Thomson, editor of a 1799 collection of Scottish traditional melodies.

So how did the song become connected with New Year’s?  The words look both backward into the past to old friendships and into the future as one maintains friendship; it is indeed a reflection on communal unity.  As such, it became increasingly connected with the Scots celebration of the New Year, Hogmanay, the Scottish word for the last day of the old year; its celebration usually extended into the first day or two of the new year.  For centuries, it had been customary in many European countries to recognize the New Year (not always on January 1; sometimes it was November 1 or another date) by renewing the oaths of fealty between lord and vassal, between squire and peasant; it was also the occasion (connected somewhat with the Winter Solstice) for hopefully promoting the fertility of the coming Spring’s new growth by watering tree roots or the like with offerings of wine or blood.  So the new year was a big deal.

As the song’s use at Hogmanay grew, a tradition developed of holding hands in a circle while singing it, concluding with singing the last verse holding hands crossed with one another.  The Scottish diaspora, particularly from Scotland into England, Canada [cf. Nova Scotia], and the new United States, at the very end of the 18th century and the beginning of the 19th, spread the celebration’s traditions, including its particular song, into these new areas.

In 1924, John Philip Sousa wrote his “Ancient and Honorable Artillery Company March”; it commemorates the Ancient and Honorable Artillery Company of Boston, the United States’ oldest military organization.  The march’s Trio (3rd section) is the tune of “Auld Lang Syne” set to a march rhythm, for it is the Artillery Company’s marching song.  And in 1929, Guy Lombardo and his orchestra, the “Royal Canadians” (which included his brothers) played “Auld Lang Syne” over the radio on New Year’s Eve; it was broadcast from the Roosevelt Grille in the Roosevelt Hotel in New York City.  Broadcast every year thereafter, it became a New Year’s tradition as Lombardo counted down the seconds to midnight; in 1959, the broadcast moved to the Grand Ballroom of the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel, where it remained until 1976 (Guy Lombardo died in 1977).  In 1956, Lombardo’s New Year’s Eve show was first broadcast on television; carried by CBS, the show included live segments from Times Square [see the “Ball Drop” above] – and thus another New Year’s Eve tradition was born.


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