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11/17/14 03:14 PM #1202    

 

David Buchholz

What I did this weekend...Fall falls in California one leaf at a time...sort of like this...we have a little red bud tree


11/17/14 11:03 PM #1203    

 

Philip Spiess

Margery:  I haven't yet tried the brownie recipe -- I've been busy writing a lecture on the philosophy and theology of St. Thomas Aquinas for my church (which isn't even Catholic), so you can see that retirement is a struggle to keep mentally alive!  But I plan to, so many thanks for sending it.  (P.S.:  As you say, Cincinnati is an interesting city -- particularly in its old families.  As a child, I used to go down regularly -- I suppose in the summer -- with my grandmother and great-grandmother to Findlay Market.  We'd always visit the well-known "Spies's Cheese" stand, get free handouts -- usually of Brick cheese -- and chat about the family name -- note the spelling of the "cheese people."  It was only at some point when I was in college that the Mr. Spies of that generation at the cheese stand said, "Yeah, when our grandfather came over from Germany to the U. S., he dropped one 'S' from our name!"  So, hmm, were we originally related?  Who knows?) 


11/22/14 10:18 AM #1204    

 

David Buchholz

I've been going through Message Forum Withdrawal symptoms, seeing the same page every day.  I'll add one new image for the weekend (and FB friends, don't go there; I posted this there, too).  As a portrait photographer some of my favorite travel photographs are of the people we met along the way.  We encountered this young man in Costa Rica.

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11/23/14 07:04 AM #1205    

 

Ira Goldberg

No words.

11/23/14 11:49 AM #1206    

 

Margery Erhardt (Schrader)

Delighted to see in this week’s posted Chatterbox the article on our then “new” Assistant Principal, William Spreen. He was a wonderful educator and administrator. Upon my return to Cincinnati from my counseling experience in England, I worked for the Forest Park – Greenhill School District where he was Superintendent. He was amazing and was able to get so much accomplished in the District.

At that time (hard to imagine now) teachers and counselors were not permitted to work after the first 3 months of pregnancy. When he found out I was pregnant he immediately saw to it that the policy was changed (in Columbus!) I worked until the end of the first semester and my son was born just 2 weeks later. And of course every female teacher/counselor could then determine their own schedule from that point forward.  


11/23/14 04:22 PM #1207    

 

Steven Levinson

Okay Margery, how about this:  When I came home from college in 1968 -- about to get married in two weeks and planning to head off to law school in late August, the draft board saying no way, you'll be drafted if you go, but, by the way, we are deferring for teachers -- I taught English and Civics for the 1968-69 school year at Sycamore High School.  Bill Spreen was the principal, and a great one he was.  A good person, a wise administrator, and not a bad bowler in the teachers' bowling league.  He wasn't bad at knocking back the bourbon, either.  He was supportive of and kind to me, and I, naturally, apologized to him for at least the second time for being complicit in the famous Pomp and Circumstance episode.  He was most gracious about that, too. 


11/24/14 01:00 PM #1208    

 

Margery Erhardt (Schrader)

Steve - Great story and memories. Now the gap between assn’t principal and superintendent has been filled in too! Also, I might mention that in April of 1974 (I was on a six month maternity leave) I received a call from Bill asking me to be in charge of curriculum for the district upon my return. Yes, a fine person and wonderful educator.


11/24/14 02:10 PM #1209    

 

Steven Levinson

Margery, now my only regret is that we lost track of Bill Spreen once Lynn and I headed off to law school in Ann Arbor during the summer of 1969.  UM had admitted Lynn for her M.Ed. for the academic year 1968-69.  She got it at UC because of our one-year delay.  She did her teaching practicum in the English Department at Sycamore HS.  In fact, because she graduated from Indiana U. early, she had interviewed with the Sycamore School District before finally teaching the '68 spring semester at Woodward.  When I had to shift gears after my draft board visit, she urged me to apply with the Sycamore district precisely because Bill Spreen was the high school principal and had been so gracious to her during her interviewing process.


11/24/14 11:19 PM #1210    

 

Philip Spiess

Dave, Ira, Margery, and Steve:  Thanks for keeping the Forum rolling.  And thanks, guys, for all the information on Bill Spreen; it throws him into a whole different light for those of us who had no further contact with him after high school (though I make no apologies for the "Pomp and Circumstance" parody -- any adult should have known we were jesting, and I know from direct experience with those of us who wrote the parody that we bore no ill will to those we parodied -- we were just being kids! -- and, we thought, clever).

Steve:  I've not yet had a chance to seriously sit down and read the family and historical material you sent me; I've been involved in historical lectures at my church.  But I look forward to it after Thanksgiving.  And did I catch that Lynn graduated from Indiana University?  That's where I did my Master's in English (1970-1971).

 


11/25/14 12:51 AM #1211    

 

Philip Spiess

Completely new thought to anyone who's interested:  I have just acquired a new computer (thanks to my wife) and am in the process of transferring programs and other things to it.  I wanted a new and personal screen- saver (is that the term I want?) and, because my wife had one of Portsmouth, New Hampshire, her home town, I wanted a skyline/waterfront view of Cincinnati for mine.  So I put into the old search engine "Cincinnati" -- and was stunned by what turned up.  In addition to all of the pictures you would expect, there were a surprising number of historical photographs (who puts these up?), including an incredible one of (I think) the Clifton (Bellevue) Incline, and numerous ones (I repeat -- who puts these up?) of the interior of the old Cincinnati Public Library (built as an opera house, but never used as such), which was torn down in the early 1950s, when the current central Public Library was built at the eastern end of Garfield/Piatt Parks, by the remarkable public librarian, Mr. Vitz (it was next to the Gayety Burlesque Theater, as reported elsewhere here, and much earlier).   


11/25/14 01:35 PM #1212    

 

Steven Levinson

Phil:  No hurry on your reading.  All in good time.  And, yes, Lynn graduated from IU in 1968.


11/25/14 02:02 PM #1213    

 

Margery Erhardt (Schrader)

Steve - gracious is such an appropriate term to describe Bill Spreen. And Phil - not to worry, Bill Spreen had/has a great sense of humor. He would have been the first one laughing except - well, he was only  Assn't Principal at the time. He would have honored the principal!


11/25/14 04:20 PM #1214    

 

David Buchholz

After the events of last night...

ON THE SUBWAY

The young man and I face each other.
His feet are huge, in black sneakers
laced with white in a complex pattern like a
set of intentional scars. We are stuck on
opposite sides of the car, a couple of
molecules stuck in a rod of energy
rapidly moving through darkness. He has
or my white eye imagines he has
the casual cold look of a mugger,
alert under lowered eyelids. He is wearing
red, like the inside of the body
exposed. I am wearing old fur, the
whole skin of an animal taken
and used. I look at his unknown face,
he looks at my grandmother’s coat, and I don’t
know if I am in his power —
he could take my coat so easily, my
briefcase, my life —
or if he is in my power, the way I am
living off his life, eating the steak
he may not be eating, as if I am taking
the food from his mouth. And he is black
and I am white, and without meaning or
trying to I must profit from our history,
the way he absorbs the murderous beams of the
nation’s heart, as black cotton
absorbs the heat of the sun and holds it. There is
no way to know how easy this
white skin makes my life, this
he could break so easily, the way I
think his own back is being broken, the
rod of his soul that at birth was dark and
fluid, rich as the heart of a seedling
ready to thrust up into any available light.
Sharon Olds
from The Gold Cell (1987)

Stepping away from the actual incident itself...it just reminds me of a statement that my sister-in-law made some years ago. She said, "There's no way any black person could be raised in America without having experienced racial prejudice." I balked at that, as I often do when someone makes a sweeping generalization. After thinking about it for a while, I accepted it completely and without reservation. This goes beyond this specific case, this story in Missouri, this goes right into our hearts.

 
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11/26/14 07:37 AM #1215    

 

Ann Shepard (Rueve)

Dave, thank you for the post of the poem here and on Facebook.  It's interesting that the front page of last week's Chatterbox featured an article about Rev. Shuttlesworth and civil rights.  Who would imagine that here we are, a half a century later still with marching in the streets, protests and riots.  My head's spinning. Déjà vu?

 


11/26/14 10:18 PM #1216    

 

David Buchholz

Happy Thanksgiving!  I'm posting this from my alter ego, Maleficient the Chicken, who has managed to make it through yet another season without being eaten.

(I am a portrait photographer.  Sometimes my clients choose me; sometimes I choose them).


11/27/14 10:39 AM #1217    

 

Ann Shepard (Rueve)

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!


11/27/14 11:08 AM #1218    

Bonnie Altman (Templeton)

To copy Ann, HAPPY THANKSGIVING everyone. Dave, that is some chicken!


11/27/14 11:37 PM #1219    

 

Larry Klein

It was just Mom and Me this year, so I roasted a Cornish hen with mashed sweet potatoes and green beans and corn bread stuffing.  Then got in the car and drove six hours to Hamburg, NY (outside Buffalo) en route to Providence, RI tomorrow for the fall Bridge Nationals.  It just started snowing when I arrived at my motel and my car now has about four inches on top.  OH BOY!  Might be a fun ride into Providence tomorrow.

Hope everybody has had a Happy Thanksgiving and stayed safe!


11/28/14 12:01 AM #1220    

 

Ann Shepard (Rueve)

Have a safe trip Larry. 

Just looked at the two front pages of the Chatterbox.  That was the week that was. 

I believe that I posted elsewhere in the Forum memory from that terrible tragedy. I have no recollection of the days that followed.

 


11/28/14 12:50 PM #1221    

 

Nancy Messer

Dave - That chicken is so cute.  I've never seen anything like that before.  Is he real or a toy?  If he's real, how in the world can he see anything?!!


11/28/14 09:43 PM #1222    

 

Larry Klein

Dave's chicken looks like a Rhode Island Red.  Coincidentally, I am now in Rhode Island after an uneventful drive in today from Hamburg, NY.  Starting the bridge wars tomorrow.  Hope everybody got in on all the good deals for Black Friday.  I didn't go NEAR a store today.


11/30/14 01:05 PM #1223    

 

David Buchholz

Nancy:  Maleficent the Chicken is real and lives across the street.  He's doing well, and I have no idea how he sees.

Ann:  Happy Birthday Again!  Since you see all the posts I know you'll see this, too.

Larry:  How are the cards treating you?

And in honor the last day of International White Orchid Month I almost forgot to post this:

 

 

 

 

 


11/30/14 02:37 PM #1224    

 

Ann Shepard (Rueve)

Dave, thank you. I love orchids. yes


11/30/14 09:22 PM #1225    

 

Susan Patterson (Schramm)

Happy Birthday, Ann Shepard Rueve & John Osher.  Hope it was a great day.  Glad to get to ( virtually) know you both, as I did not know either of you well during our time at WHHS.

David, I just love the chicken, especially his ( her ) blue legs!


11/30/14 10:56 PM #1226    

 

Philip Spiess

Dave:  I was thoroughly digesting Sharon Olds' poem, although I was excited by the thought that it was by you.  But no matter:  it was worthy of the entry; I keep hoping that incidents like that in Ferguson, Mo., which are all too reminiscent of the 1960s, spur more Americans to recognize that we are all one, and that negative racial atitudes must be crushed, much as such attitudes toward LGBT Americans seem (surprisingly) to be disappearing in many quarters.  (Scientifically, race does not exist as an entity, and, if you've noticed, many official government forms confuse race and ethnicity.)

Larry:  We, too, were caught in the New England snow storms on the way to Maine, but not badly; we made it easily, as those folks know how to clear roads.  The major shopping we did was at the New Hampshire State Liquor Stores, which are huge and have a vast selection of the good, the bad, and the ugly when it comes to alcohol.

All, re orchids:  I hope you all know about the author Rex Stout's famous fictional detective, Nero Wolfe, and his orchid rooms atop his New York City brownstone townhouse; he spends two hours every morning and afternoon up there cultivating the exotic flowers, and, when he isn't actually solving crimes, spends the rest of the time cooking and eating -- as do I (cf. any of the Nero Wolfe mysteries or The Nero Wolfe Cookbook, 1973).  Fortunately, I by no means have Nero Wolfe's poundage from my cooking and eating (though I processed much seafood of various kinds while in New England), but I am also not quite the ephebe-like figure I was in high school! 


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