Philip Spiess

Looks like Dave Schneider to me.  (That would be David M. Schneider.)

Larry Klein

Clearly, Dave dug deep into the archives for that one, and Phil used NCIS facial recognition software for the ID!  I'd say the Beatles had nothin' on our class!

(And i'll bet that even the left-coasters aren't online at 4:51AM EST)

David Buchholz

Phil, yes. Larry, the left-coasters aren't online at 4:51 am est., but this one is at 4:51 pst. "Hare Krishna" from a refugee of the "summer of love."

Michael Hunting

And to think of how many eyes he has saved! If I only had hair, I would have looked like that in the 60's!

Philip Spiess

Larry, I wouldn't know how to use NCIS Facial Recognition Software if I fell over it -- and perhaps I have (though my wife is an addict of all the NCIS shows).  What I immediately recognized was that personal Schneider mania that sang "Great Big Herc is My Heart's Desire" in our notorious production of "Useless" (Spiess, Rosen, Marks) as our 8th Grade Latin Class project for Miss Ewald.

And Michael, as you say, "the eyes have it!"  And as I recall, you looked pretty okay yourself in the 1960s, particularly when you were singing!

David Buchholz

Not everyone in the Buchholz archive was a flower child...

Philip Spiess

Isn't this guy running for president on the Republican ticket this year?  (Excuse me -- who isn't?)  Just remember what Mark Twain said:  "Suppose I was a Congressman.  And suppose I was an idiot.  But I repeat myself."

Ann Shepard (Rueve)

Why David, isn't that MY man crush, your magnificent cousin Horst!!?

Unfortunately he didn't age well and met his demise in 2003.

David Buchholz

I just received an email from this man yesterday, so I don't believe that he's met his demise.  Hint: his email read, "Between you and Paul I am thoroughly entertained.."  He's a member of WHHS 64'.

Michael Hunting

I must confess that I am guilty as charged!

Dale Gieringer

  Happy 4-20 to everyone!  It's also my 69th birthday.  When we were in school, it was darkly remembered as Hitler's birthday.  Since then, it's become the national pot smokers' holiday.   At least that's one thing that's improved since we graduated.

Ann Shepard (Rueve)

I always thought Mike had movie star good looks!! 

Larry Klein

We all had movie-star looks, Ann.  Unfortunately, mine compared more to Danny Trejo.

Ira Goldberg

Dale, happy day to you. And, thanks for 'weeding out' those obscure factoids!

Philip Spiess

Apparently, we all had moustaches back in the day (uh, that is, the guys did!):  Schneider, Hunting, Spiess.  And others still have them, plus more:  Gieringer, Marks, Levinson, Cole.  Others putting on hairs?  (Show us the photos.)

Gail Weintraub (Stern)

Back to the conversation about mistaken identities and movie star looks: This Saturday, April 25th, will be the 30th anniversary of Big River. This was Rick Steiner's first big Broadway musical success story. I attended Opening Night. When I got out of the limo in front of the Eugene O'Neill Theatre, gathered onlookers shouted out, "Sandy Duncan!" and the cameras flashed. That certainly surprised me. Who knew?! Not me.

Philip Spiess

Even the banks of Big Rivers are apt to be Sandy.

Steven Levinson

Gail, in my opinion, they were short-changing you.  You ran/run circles around Sandy Duncan.

Ira Goldberg

What a coincidence! Arriving on the West Coast yesterday, I saw a commotion in the lobby, only to find crowds and paparazzi following Sandy Duncan, shouting Gail! Gail Stern! We love you! Of course, the last part is true!        

Rick, how time flies! Congratulations on the upcoming anniversary of the exciting night Gail described of your launching a most stellar career. It has given joy to many. Your continued use of those talents is a true gift!

Gail Weintraub (Stern)

I have just learned of the death of our classmate, Paul Agnew. His brother, Gordon, WHHS Class of 1963, told me that Paul died in August, 2014. I know nothing other than that. If I learn more information, I'll post it on his In Memory page. Your reflections of Paul are always appreciated.

Philip Spiess

Okay, I was hoping someone else would jump in and keep this Forum going -- there are so many topics we could discuss -- our past, our present, friends, our intellectual interests, our food and/or drink pleasures, our sports activities, our artistic/creative activies (as Dave Buchholz has suggested), current social/political issues, etc., etc.  So I will take it upon myself to initiate a topic:

What do any of you make of the current riots in Baltimore?  It is all too familiar to me as deja vu of the race riots of the mid-1960s.  Discussing it with my son, who is a firefighter, and who was born in 1991, we have two (not necessarily different) perspectives.  He confused the mid-60s riots with the Civil Rights protests of the earlier 1960s (I corrected him).  Tonight (Tuesday), things in Baltimore seem to have been more relaxed; the communities of Baltimore, white and black, seem to have largely tried to pull together, with music, dancing, religious celebrations, etc.  So what (if anything) do any of you make of this -- particularly from a Class of 1964 perspective? 

Larry Klein

Signs of the times.  Celebrate by destruction.  Protest by destruction.  Brings to mind a couple of tunes from the not too distant past.  Always thought they were a bit too pessimistic, but events like this one in Baltimore and recently in St. Louis seem to keep piling up.  Too many people on edge.

http://genius.com/Machine-gun-kelly-edge-of-destruction-lyrics

http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Eve-of-Destruction-lyrics-Bob-Dylan/D828DED5423CDAF748256C0E0007594A

Barbara Kahn (Tepper)

Since just about all we do here is go to doctors I was intrigued by your question Phil.  I don't see the Baltimore riots like the civil rights protests of the early 60s.  There was real injustice on a large scale.  An entire race of people were denied their human rights.  

In Baltimore there was a horrible incident where a person was killed accidentally.  I cannot pass judgement on the officers involved but it doesn't sound right.  Still, this was one incident and not discrimination against a whole race.  Say what you will about the 2 Americas as John Edwards used to say in his failed campaign.  Yes, there is great inequality in our country but this is not an excuse to loot, burn and destroy a city like what's happening in Baltimore.  I wouldn't be surprised if there are people or groups of people that came into town for just that purpose.  There is a mob mentality that takes over that was nothing like the marches in the south that tried very hard to be peaceful protests.  

The scenes of destruction are heartbreaking and the people who lost their businesses and jobs may never fully recover.  It's a tragedy in so many ways.  I hope they can heal, repair some of the damage and bring a workable solution to this situation.  

Jerry Ochs

I lived in Parktown in the West End when the rioting erupted.  Some neighbors and I were watching the fires and looting one night when a station-wagon police car with two dogs in the back and plainclothes police in the front pulled up in front of us.  The passenger-side police officer jumped out and laid a double-barreled shotgun on the roof of the car, aimed at my chest.  "What the fuck are YOU doing here?", he growled.  I said I lived there. The dogs inside the car were so agitated that the car was rocking.  They wanted to get out to bite somebody.  One of the neighbors I was with was a member of city council.  He had been stopped four times for "walking while black" on his way home from city hall.  After the cops left, he turned to me and smiled. 

Philip Spiess

Larry:  You remind me of the 1960s song, "The Eve of Destruction."  And certainly in the Middle East (and elsewhere) destruction is the order of the day.  (Are human beings crazy?  Don't they recognize where their own self-interest lies?)

Barbara:  Thank you for your comments (and thank you for joining in).  However, I see -- as many others do -- this as a new phase of race problems in the U. S., namely, what used to be called "police brutality" and now includes "racial profiling."  This was not, unfortunately, a single incident in Baltimore, but one of a long series of "rough rides" in police vans designed to intimidate and subjugate police prisoners (not just for blacks, but for whites as well).  And of course we have seen, and heard, the ongoing litany of what is now a multitude of black men and women, both young and old, who have died at the hands of the police (our presumed protectors) while in custody or being taken into custody.  Obviously, there is something desperately wrong in many American communities -- witness the solidarity protests going on today and tonight (April 29) throughout the country in New York, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Washington, and so on.  In the case of Baltimore, it seems to be emerging that long-standing economic issues are really at the heart of the current protests, something which in many areas does reach back to the 1960s -- and before.

Jerry:  When the Cincinnati "riots" hit in 1966 (1967?), I well remember a summer evening when I was ushering at the Cincinnati Summer Opera (then still held in the Zoo).  It was the evening when the National Guard took over the city, due to a racial crisis and looting, largely centered on Avondale, which abutted the Zoo, and Guards were riding around the city in Jeeps with rifles and machine guns.  World-famous soprano Elisabeth Schwarzkopf was performing her immortal role of the Marschallin in Richard Strauss's opera Der Rosenkavalier on the Zoo stage (Nelson, take note), and somewhere along about the beginning of Act II, suddenly armed National Guards, bristling with rifles, surrounded the Zoo Opera pavilion.  My first thought was, "My god!  A lion's escaped!"  Then I realized what was happening -- though I didn't know why -- and thought, "Oh, my god!  It's like the end of the first act of Umberto Giordano's opera, Andrea Chenier," where the aristocracy (read "opera goers" in my fertile imagination) are attacked at a party by the Bourgeoisie (it's the beginning of the French Revolution) and must be protected by the royal guard.  However, nothing much transpired, and the National Guard left; most opera goers missed the whole thing.