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11/10/22 08:26 PM #6160    

 

Ann Shepard (Rueve)

The on-line Chatterbox just popped up on the WHHS Alumni Facebook page. I thought I'd share. 
https://whhscbox.com/7532/showcase/short-and-sweet/#photo


11/11/22 07:11 AM #6161    

 

Paul Simons

Thanks very much for this article Ann. I woke up feeling gloomy and tried it both ways - one with water tinged with a kind of tan sugar like in the article to look about the color of bourbon and one with real bourbon, Jack Daniels of course. I don't drink a lot so I used shot glasses. At first I didn't feel any change of mood so I tried another shot of each. Still feeling a bit glum. After two more shots of each I figured wait a minute, the photo with the article shows a regular on-the-rocks glass so I'd better start using that too. But after four full glasses like that, no mood change and I was running low on the Jack Daniels. So I'm going to take a drive down I-75 to the liquor store in Covington where the prices are better. I'll let you know how things progress.

 


11/11/22 11:17 AM #6162    

 

Nelson Abanto

 

I wish a very happy day to all the Vets.  Thanks you for your service.

I also wish a Happy Birthday to all my Brother Marines.

Nelson


11/11/22 01:13 PM #6163    

 

Gene Stern

November 11 1918 at 11AM, WW1, the war to end all wars, was officially ended. Novenber 11 was set as a date to honor all military veterans as Remembrance Day with the red poppy as the official flower (see In Flanders Fields the poem written by a Canadian medical doctor named McRae). We now honor all veterans on that date, naming it Veteran's Day and I, like Nelson Abanto, congratulate and honor all veterans for their service to our Country.


11/11/22 05:56 PM #6164    

 

Philip Spiess

Although I was never in our Armed Forces, I congratulate and thank our Service men and women, and although not all were in the Marines, I hereby offer the recipe for the Leatherneck Cocktail, invented by a former Marine and New York World-Telegram columnist, one Frank Farrell:

LEATHERNECK COCKTAIL:

Ingredients:

2 oz. Blended Whiskey (Crown Royal, Canadian Club, or Seagram's 7 Crown)           1/2 oz. fresh Lime Juice                  

3/4 oz. Blue Curacao  (If the drink's unusual color bothers you -- perhaps it's intended to remind a Marine of the sea -- use Orange Curacao instead)

Directions:  Shake all ingredients together in an iced cocktail shaker, then strain into a cocktail (martini) glass.  Garnish with a lime wheel.  Cheers!


11/12/22 06:18 AM #6165    

 

Ann Shepard (Rueve)

The Chatterbox link contains more than just that drink. It's an interactive page to all sorts of articles. Just click on the top menu that will take you to latest news and opinions from Walnut Hills High. 
I echo greetings and thanks to the veterans in our class, and Happy Birthday to the Marines  Y'all looking good for 247!  Simper Fi!

 


11/12/22 07:51 AM #6166    

 

Paul Simons

I've been taking some time to imagine the types of injuries and deaths that the machinery of war inflicts. I didn't have to go to Vietnam because of a knee injury that the draft board doctor figured would make me a detriment rather than an asset to the military. I was very lucky. I hope those who served and lost eyes or limbs or both can feel that their sacrifices mattered and that the country and the world are better places because of them. In many cases this is true, their sacrifices matter and we know it and honor it. At the same time the glorification of war is no longer needed. "Honestly is the best policy," the saying goes. The other saying is "War is hell."


11/12/22 08:03 AM #6167    

Jon Singer

In 1985 or so on November 11th a local pharmacist called me while I was on duty in the ED.  He asked if I was all right to which I replied in the affirmative.  He then informed me that the prescription date on a child's Amoxacillin order he just filled was 11/11/46.  The pharmacist wanted to be sure I was oriented.That is what happens on your birthday and you are accustomed to write this date on so many documents.  Katona and I shared the birth date and in our early days we benefitted from the school holiday.

I have the utmost respect for anyone who joins any branch or who has served in our armed forces. They are among the one percent who protect the 99.  As things turned out with my med school deferral I was a non-participant during Vietnam.  Had I been drafted, I believe I would have been as my lead character in one of my plays, a Midwest doc who fled to Toronto and was welcomed back after amnesty was granted. The evening news brought that mayhem too close to my pacifist/chicken s..t character. In retrospect, everyone-IKE, JFK,Nixon blew it. The worst was LBJ, who said if we let the Viet Cong control we would be forced to defend Hawaii from the commies. Sorry to have made a politcal comment.  Jon


11/13/22 01:56 PM #6168    

 

Nelson Abanto

Why.

 

Where I live in North Key Largo, the community feted Veterans more than usual this year.  There was one Marine from WWII, several from Korea, several from the Viet Nam era and quite a few from Iraq and Afghanistan.  Those celebrations and the discussions here gave me pause to reflect on my involvement in that war.

 

First, I never thought for a moment that the war in Viet Nam was a noble cause and if I didn’t go, Viet Cong would be marching down Vine Street.  I was engaged to the love of my life (still married 55 years later), I had a place at Harvard Business School and I was quite ready to start my adult life.

 

On the other hand I knew my country was deeply involved in a major war.  I saw young men leaving every day for the war.  Some came back severely wounded, some didn’t come back at all.  Simply put, I felt that if I didn’t go someone would have to go in my place.  Added to that was the fact that every adult male that I knew when I was growing up had served in WWII and/or Korea.  I guess I was pre-programmed to serve.

 

When I got there I was struck by the fact that my Marines were a bunch of ill behaved 18 year old kids.  They were almost exclusively from the lower rungs of society, economically and socially.  They desperately needed leadership and discipline.  I actually felt that was my calling.  I felt it was something I could do well and I felt that my being there increased their chances of survival.  That’s why I stayed for a second tour and why I agreed to stay for a third tour.  Cindy vetoed that idea and in so doing she probably saved my life.  I had rolled the dice too many times.

 

To sum up, for me it wasn’t about God or country.  It was about my Marines.  I suspect that feeling is the key to every great fighting force.  If we, as a country, lose that feeling, we are in trouble.

 

Nelson


11/14/22 11:09 AM #6169    

 

Ann Shepard (Rueve)

I didn't serve in 'Nam, but my sweetheart, Reggie, a boy whom I met while he was driving a green Freezer Fresh ice cream truck (a competitor to Mr. Softee) did. You might have met him at our senior boat ride after graduation.  On the other hand, you might not have since, as I recall, we spent much of the boat ride on the top deck smooching. 
He was a year older, and in was at UC, not really focused on any particular field of study, but "maybe business", when he got his draft notice. Rather than go into the army, he chose to enlist in the Marines.  His best friend, Skip, also joined at the same time.
The two boys, both 19, went through basic at Camp Lejeune.  Reggie was deployed from Pendleton to Chu Lai, in 1967. I wrote daily letters and still remember the address "3rd BN, 26th Marines, 3rd Marine Div" on the envelope and receiving letters back in "air mail" envelopes and the word "free" where a stamp would be.
Both returned home, but never spoke about their experiences, although Skip came back with a sever skin condition.  Skip enrolled in college where I went to school.  He married a friend of mine.  I was in  his wedding, and Reggie was the best man.
More than a half century later, I have lost touch with Skip, but have kept in touch with Reggie, who after returning from war, went back to finish his undergraduate degree in business, and , like Nelson, graduated with his MBA at Harvard.  He started his career at P & G, switched to sport's management, then found his niche in amusement park marketing industry, first in 1972, at King's Island, and in 1982, becoming an executive with Disney, Orlando, where he worked until retirement. Although our lives took different paths, to this day, he tells me that I was with him.  The only thing he ever mentions about Vietnam is on Memorial Day, or Veteran's Day, when he gives a tribute to his buddy and hero, John, from Cedar Rapids, who lost his life on April 21, 1967.

 

 


11/14/22 07:26 PM #6170    

 

Evan Burkholder

Simper Fi, Nelson. Well said. 


11/15/22 05:49 AM #6171    

 

Laura Reid (Pease)

Very well said Nelson.  Our sincere thanks and gratitude to all who have served, along with you, my husband and many of our friends.  You did, indeed, help train those who were much younger and inexperienced than you and probably changed their lives forever.  It was evident at the time that some of our boys were not sure about the validity of the Viet Nam War, but they were called and they answered because they felt it was their duty.  I am forever grateful for your commitment and to all who have served over the life of our country.   


11/15/22 03:26 PM #6172    

 

Larry Klein

This was one of my 32 long-range recon patrols out of DaNang in '69. Taught a lot as Nelson did, and learned a lot about people. Left UC after junior year to sign up.  Don't know if I would do that again, but proud to have been there and brought all my guys home.

 


11/15/22 05:16 PM #6173    

 

Richard Winter (Winter)

I am deeply grateful to those who have served in our armed forces -- including of course Nelson and Larry -- as well as those who do other dangerous job to keep us all safe, such as police, fire and emergency workers.  Thanks to all of you who do this hard work and put your personal safety at risk for our freedom and security.


11/16/22 02:37 PM #6174    

 

Raymond Morton, Jr.

This brings back memories from my time in the military, many I try to forget. Speaking of Walnut Hills classmates, when I was a Lt. stationed in Fort Knox KY, another Walnut Hills alumni (and my best friend until this day) Rick Lindsey was also stationed there. We did not see much of each other as we were in different companies. He was stationed to Fairbanks Alaska (brrrrrrr) and I did not see him again until I left the military in 1968. Attached is a Picture of one of the happier times on my graduation day from Armor Officer School. Many of my classmates gave the ultimate sacrifice, and many more seriously injured. Luckily I escaped both.. I salute all my Walnut Hills Alumni who served, and also those who supported us at home.


11/16/22 05:35 PM #6175    

 

Gail Weintraub (Stern)

I am so touched by our classmates' profiles in courage. Your service to our country, even if one disagreed with the continuation of our engagement, is another example of Sursum ad Summum. I look forward to seeing you at our 75+2 Birthday Reunion in June when I can thank you in person.


11/17/22 05:38 AM #6176    

 

Laura Reid (Pease)

 

What a great photo Ray!

I wonder if we have any statistics of how many in the class of '64 served in the military?  Do you know Gail?


11/17/22 02:59 PM #6177    

 

Steven Levinson

Around 44, Laura.  It's on the Classmate Profiles page.

Steve


11/18/22 03:07 PM #6178    

 

Sandy Steele (Bauman)

My husband spent four years in the Coast Guard during the VietNam War. I am enjoying the posts that our military classmates have been posting. 


11/18/22 05:24 PM #6179    

 

Linda Karpen (Nachman)

Thank you to ALL '64 vets! Your service is well-remembered and recognized!! 🇺🇸


11/19/22 06:39 PM #6180    

 

Laura Reid (Pease)

Thanks Steve!  I had forgotten that information was on Classmates Profiles--very impressive.  We thank all the  vets from the class of '64!


11/21/22 01:59 PM #6181    

Allen Fisher

Just to add my 2 cents worth----Thank you Ray, Larry & Nelson for your beautiful service. Sandy's husband as well. Although a lot of times not really attractive which is part of serving and being an American during those times. All my best to you and your families and all who served. Kind Regards, Allen Fisher


12/07/22 02:08 AM #6182    

 

Philip Spiess

PROHIBITION REVISITED:  A Story of North College Hill and Elsewhere in Ohio

On national Prohibition:  “Under the old local-option plan a community decided whether or not it would have liquor; under the new [plan] it decides whether or not it will have the law.”  -- Samuel Hopkins Adams (1921).

Leading up to the national Prohibition Amendment to the Constitution (the 18th, ratified January 16, 1919, and going into effect January 16, 1920), Republican Ohio was the leader in the prohibition of alcoholic beverages movement, being the home of the Anti-Saloon League (founded at Oberlin, Ohio, in 1893), which gained more members and greater political power than even the Women’s Christian Temperance Union (WCTU).  It literally elected Senators and Representatives to the U. S. Congress for years throughout the “Roaring Twenties” – and, under the guidance of Wayne B. Wheeler, who took over the Ohio Anti-Saloon League’s legal office in 1898 and became its head in 1902, effectively controlled Congressional voting on Prohibition (“Vote Dry”) issues.  In 1909 the League opened a printing plant in Westerville, Ohio, twelve miles from Columbus on land donated by the town; there, eight presses ran constantly, producing more than forty tons of prohibitionist propaganda each month. 

Cincinnati had, of course, been generally opposed to this movement, given the heavy beer-drinking German population, the numerous (particularly Jewish) whiskey distillers, the plentiful local “family-oriented” beer gardens, etc.  After all, 80% of America’s bonded whiskey was stored in distillery warehouses within three hundred miles of Fountain Square – as “King of the Bootleggers” George Remus had duly recognized [see my WHHS Forum Post #3780 (12-30-2018)].

Ohio, which, through the Anti-Saloon League, had often led the country in “creative” applications of “dry” legal practice as Prohibition forced its way onto Americans, pursuing the so-called “wet” lawbreakers (of which there were many – most? – throughout the country), finally achieved a first in entrepreneurial legal legerdemain in Hamilton County.  Under Ohio law, small towns and villages were authorized to operate “liquor courts” that were run by local officials (few of them judges); the law also directed that more than half the revenue from levied fines was to be paid out to the presiding official and the town.  [Anyone see a problem here?]  But this was not all:  in Ohio there was a provision in the law that granted each “liquor court” jurisdiction – not just within its own village limits – but also anywhere in its county.

Thus the then tiny community of North College Hill, a Cincinnati suburb of 1,104 in the early 1920s (a populace about the size of my undergraduate college, Hanover College in Indiana), could commandeer legal authority over the heavily German, and therefore thoroughly “wet,” very large city of Cincinnati, which was its neighbor in the county.  And so it did – Mayor A. R. Pugh personally led North College Hill’s raids into adjacent jurisdictions, netting more than $20,000 in revenue for his village and himself in a period of less than eight months.  Mayor Pugh knew he could count on the cooperation of his town prosecutor, as well as the town’s judge – because he held both of those positions, too!

Meanwhile, the Prohibition director for the Ohio region, former congressman Joshua E. Russell, preached to the Sidney Baptist Church that “we are now engaged in a struggle with the forces of lawlessness in an effort to sustain the majesty of the law” – all the while that he and his top aide were in the process of diverting 22,416 gallons of alcohol from a distillery in Troy, Ohio.  [Note:  By 1927 the number of states still spending any money on Prohibition enforcement at all together in toto appropriated less than 15% for that purpose than the amount they allocated for the enforcement of fish and game laws.  But then alcohol goes nicely with dinners of fish and game.]

Indeed, Ohio's "Native Son," Warren Harding, the first President to preside over Prohibition America, publicly supported it, but at home at the White House he hosted whiskey and poker parties for his cronies (and had open whiskey on the golf course).  (Andrew Mellon, who, as Harding's Secretary of the Treasury was supposed to oversee Prohibition enforcement -- them "revenooers," you know -- was cool to these duties.)  And our own homegrown boy, Cincinnati’s William Howard Taft, former President and later Chief Justice of the U. S. Supreme Court, once called by the Anti-Saloon League “the huge, beer-swilled Taft,” had, as President, vetoed the Webb-Kenyon Act, which restricted the interstate shipment of liquor.  Not only did he declare Prohibition to be “unenforceable,” but he also believed it “would put on the shoulders of the Government the duty of sweeping the doorsteps of every home in the land.  If national prohibition legislation is passed, local government would be destroyed.”

Moral lesson (if it is one):  national Prohibition radically increased the amount of drinking in the United States, including that of women publicly; produced many local crime waves; inspired general corruption of local law enforcement, and indeed politics and politicians, who became serious hypocrites; brought about a disrespect for government institutions; and, because of really cheap – and therefore bad – homemade (or worse) alcoholic beverages, often with poisonous ingredients (from which a good number of persons died), thereby created a wealth of new cocktails, mixing new flavors with spurious gins, whiskies, etc., in order to cover over really inferior-tasting products.  Ergo, Prohibition somersaulted the country from trying to be dry into being really wet – in other words, “Bottoms up!”


12/07/22 01:53 PM #6183    

 

Stephen Collett

Great Phil, thanks so much.


12/08/22 12:22 PM #6184    

 

Paul Simons

I find the article by Mr. Spiess quite interesting and was glad to be reminded of times in the past, driving down I-75 towards Cincinnati, passing the huge National Distillers tanks and catching the sweet scent of sour mash from which that fabulous Jim Beam or somebody bourbon was made That alone was intoxicating.
But anyway it seems the reason, the motivation for removing the right of the citizenry to drink alcohol was unclear. Sure, eventually it was about making money from bootlegging and crooked enforcement, but did it start from some kind of high-minded desire to improve the quality of life? Maybe the idea was that men needed to stop beating up their wives and children and sobriety would take care of that problem? That alcohol contributed to cardiovascular and other heath problems?
Prohibition did seem to cause more trouble than it fixed. I would guess that anytime people are comfortable with something and then it is snatched away from them by those who see themselves as morally superior and have the power to do that kind of thing, trouble will come. Al Capone and the like wouldn't have had bootlegging empires that they defended with major violence if the do-gooders hadn't found it necessary to impose their beliefs on everyone.
Personally I'm not a drinker. My lady friend had to stop because it was irritating her pancreas, and so I stopped too. I don't miss it a bit. I fact I have been thinking that Cincinnati Chili should be banned, as it is mostly fat which can cause all kinds of trouble. ATF - the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, in my opinion should be ATFCC - Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Cincinnati Chili.

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